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NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE OF MINING ENGINEERS.
TRANSACTIONS.
VOL. XVI.
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CONTENTS OF VOL. XVI.
PAGE.

PAGE.
Re poet of Council ..................v Honorary

Members...............xiv
Finance Report .....................ix Members and Graduates

......xvi
Patrons .................. .........xiii Subscribing

Collieries......xxviii
Officers, 1867-8 .....................xv Errata

...........................xxviii
GENERAL MEETINGS.
1866.


PAGE.
Sept. 1.—Discussion of Mr. Ansell's Paper on a New Method of indicating
the presence of Fire- and Choke-damp in Coal Mines ... 1—3
Oct. 4.—Discussions of Chronicles of Coal Trade, and of Paper read by
Mr. A. L. 8teavenson on Experiments with Guibal'sVentilator 5—10 "

On some Experiments with the Covered Ventilator of M.
Guibal—Translation by Mr. A. L. Steavenson " ...... 11 — 21
Nov. 3.—Discussion of Mr. Maiiey's Paper on Calow's Safety-cage and

Lemielle's Ventilator; Mr. Cochrane read a Paper on 'Harrison's Cast-iron

Boilers ;' Mr. Daglish read a Paper on
' Broadbent's Safety-cage' ............... 23—32
"On Broadbent's Patent Safety-cage, by Mr. J. Daglish" ... 33:—34
" On Harrison's Cast-iron Boilers, by Mr. W. Cochrane " ... 35—40
Dec. 6.—Mr. Lishman's Paper on a System of Working Coal on the Long-wall

Plan was read; Postponement of discussions on Guibal's Fan Ventilator

and Broadbent's Safety-cage;
Harrison's Cast-iron Boilers, discussion on ... ... ...

41—43
" On a System of Working Coal by the Long-wall Plan, by Mr.
W. Lishman" ..................... 45—48
18G7. Feb. 2.—Mr. Daglish read a Paper on Conveyance of Coal Underground;

Mr. Cochrane read a Paper on a Comparison of the Guibal
and Lemielle Systems of Mechanical Ventilation ...... 49—52
" On Conveyance of .Coal Underground, by Mr. J. Daglish" ... 53—56 " A

Comparison of the Guibal and Lemielle Systems of
Mechanical Ventilators, by Mr. W. Cochrane " ...... 57—85
Mar. 7.—Discussions on Broadbent's Patent Safety-cage, and on the Conveyance

of Coal Underground; Safety-lamp Committee's Report was read; Mr. Wm.

Cockburn read a Paper on "Underground Conveyance in the Cleveland District"

... 87—94 " On Underground Conveyance in the Cleveland District, by Mr. Wm.

Cockburn" .................. 95—100
April G.—Mr. D. P. Morison read a Paper on Underground Conveyance at Pel ton

Colliery, discussion and remarks and illustrations by Mr. A. L. Steavenson

followed; The Tail-rope Committee read their first Report; Mr. Harper read a

Paper on Harper's Improved Safety-cage ..................101—106
May 2.—Discussion of Mr. Lishman's Paper on the Long-wall System ;
Remarks on Bastier's Patent Pump ............ 107—112
" On Harper's Improved Safety-cage Apparatus for ordinary
Wire-rope Conductors ".................. 113—116
"On Underground Haulage at Pelton Colliery, by Mr. D. P.
Morison and Mr. James Nelson " ............ 117—124
June 1.—Discussion on Mr. Cockburn's Paper on Underground Conveyance in

Cleveland, etc. ; and on Underground Haulage at Pelton ; and on Accidents in

Mines; and appointment of Committee to report on Safety-cages; Mr. T. W.

Bunning appointed Secretary ..................125—128
x\ug. 1.—Annual Meeting, Reports, Election of Officers, and Alteration
of Rule XL; Mr. Waller read a Paper on Pumping ... 129—133 "On

Pumping, by Sir. Waller" ...............135—140
ILLUSTRATIONS TO YOL. XVI.
Plates I.-III................Diagrams to illustrate Experiments with the

Guibal
Ventilator ..................16
IV...................Sketch of an Apparatus to test the effect of rapid
descent produced on Calow's Safety-cage ... 32
V...................Plans of Broadbent's Patent Safety-cage ......

33
VI.-VIII..........Plans to illustrate the mode of arrangement

of
Harrison's Cast-iron Steam Boilers, by Mr. W.
Cochrane ..................35
IX.-XI.............Plans showing the Method of Working Coal by the
Long-wall and by Board-and-pillar System, by
Mr. W. Lishman ...............4°
XII.-XIII..........Plans to illustrate Mr. Daglish's Paper on the Conveyance

of Coals Underground .........54
XIV................Diagram of the Lemielle Ventilator .........57
XV.-XXIII.......Diagrams to illustrate Mr. Cockburn's Paper on the
Clip-pulley and Underground Conveyance in the
Cleveland District ...............10G
XXIV.............Diagram to illustrate Mr. A. L. Steavenson's Experiments

and Remarks, p. 103............106
XXV-XXIX. ...Diagrams to illustrate Mr. Harper's Paper on Improved
Safety-cages for Iron-wire Conductors ......114
XXX.-XXXIV...Diagrams to illustrate Messrs. Morison and Nelson's
Paper on Underground Haulage at Pelton Colliery 120-4 XXXV.-XXXVL.Diagrams

to illustrate Mr. Waller's Paper on Pumping ICG
f\tpxi
In drawing up and presenting- to the members of the Institute their Report

for the year just coming to a close, the Council have little else to do than

to repeat the observations of the preceding- year.
They have, as on that occasion, to report a large increase of members, and a

generally prosperous and encouraging position of the Institution, with the

difference, however, that this increase cannot exactly be attributed to the

same causes. Much of it must be attributed to the junction of many and

important members of the profession of Mechanical Engineers, which, whilst

it adds to the numbers at the same time is largely augmenting the utility

and importance of the Institution.
With the profession of Mechanical Engineers, that of Mining Engineers is of

necessity partially connected; and by the junction of the two it is to be

anticipated that an impetus will be given to that branch of mechanical

science, without which mining, and more especially coal-mining, cannot now

be successfully pursued. In saying this, the Council cannot conceal from

themselves that this so desirable union has been, in part, caused by the

prosperous state and growing influence of this Society, and the attention

attracted to it by the information conveyed in its more voluminous

Transactions.
The precise position of the Institution, as to increase of membership during

the current year, now at its close, may be briefly summed up as

follows:—gross increase of members, 70; deduct by death and other causes,

15j net increase, for 1806-7, 55.
Amongst the losses by death it would be unpardonable were the Council to

omit to refer particularly to the death of the late Parker Jeffcock,

Esquire, of Derby, for many years a member of this Society, and a partner of

one of its Vice-Presidents, Mr. J. T. Woodhouse.
The appalling catastrophe at the Oaks Colliery, near Barnsley, is
(vi)
still too fresh in tlie memory, not only of those present, but of the public

generally. Amongst those who perished on that melancholy occasion there are

none whose loss will be more lamented than that of Mr. Jeffcock. Nobly

exposing- himself with his brave companions in the cause of humanity, and

for the rescue of others from dangers hardly to be escaped, he fell a victim

to a sense of duty of the highest order, and on which no euloguim can be

passed which can be deemed extravagant.
The Council trust they may.be excused in cherishing the hope that this

respectful and affectionate momento of a good and brave man may help to keep

his memory green, and prove, in some small degree, a consolation to those

surviving relations and friends who admire his heroism whilst they continue

to lament his loss.
From some of the striking incidents of the unfortunate catastrophe at

Barnsley, it is yet possible to draw considerations of a consoling-nature.

It is impossible for a reflecting mind not to deduce, from the instances of

daring courage and strong devotion there exhibited, this conclusion,—that no

amount of risk can have deterred such men from the full performance of the

dangerous duties of mine ventilation, or from any possible exertion of skill

by which those clangers may have probably been diminished if not avoided.

This conclusion is as sound as it is inevitable.
That coal-mining, especially in deep collieries, must long continue to he an

insecure pursuit is only too evident. In this it is not singular, the same

insecurity being shared in common with many other processes from which to

all appearance it would be easier to exclude risk of life. The rate of

mortality amongst those who follow the trade of saw-grinding is a striking

proof of this. The Council, however, express their earnest hope and

expectation that the continuous application of mechanical science will

gradually diminish both the labour and the risk of the coal-mine. B}r the

triumph of mechanical skill alone our deeper collieries have been made

available. By the progress of mechanical science the toil and risks of

reaching and extracting coal at great depths will, past a doubt, be

gradually ameliorated, and possibly to a large extent avoided.
Adverting to the Volume of Transactions for the past year, the Council need

not hesitate to say, that it will be found to embody the average quantity of

papers of interest, as affording useful information and examples of well

directed enquiry.
They may be allowed perhaps to particularise Mr. Lishman's paper
(vii)
on the Long-Wall System of Working, and that by Mr. Cochrane, comparing the

Guibal and Lemielle's Systems of Mechanical Ventilation. There are also some

important practical observations on the Conveyance of Coals Underground by

Mr. J. Daglish and others, which ought not to be passed over without notice.
In making their Eeport for the preceding year, the Council briefly
adverted to the Commission then recently appointed, for the purpose of
ascertaining and estimating the supplies of coals applicable to future use
in the United Kingdom. That Commission has not yet, as a matter of
course, issued any report with respect to any portion of a subject at once
so extended and so difficult as must necessarily be an enquiry of this
nature. The Council advert to it a second time principally for the
purpose of urging the members of the Institution generally to aid. this
investigation as far as it may be in their power so to do. That the
President, and one of the most experienced members of this Societv, are
placed upon the Commission is a matter for gratulation, but as far as
relates to these counties, the whole labour ought not to be pei-mitted
to rest upon the Commissioners but every aid should be accorded
that local members can give. That an approximately correct estimate
of the available amount of coal remaining in known seams will be
achieved the Council do not in the least doubt. They would, however,
caution those who may be inclined to draw rash conclusions from such
statements of the danger of doing so. It is premature in the extreme
at this time to attempt to anticipate the march of adventure, the progress
of mining- science, and the geological discoveries still in store for the
future. Had the steam-engine not being perfected the finest seams of
this vicinity might have remained untouched; and the discovery of new
forces, and new methods of overcoming mining difficulties may be
destined in the far and distant future to unfold sources of supply as vet
undreamed of.
Before concluding-, the Council must be permitted to congratulate the

Members on the general position of the Institution. The prosperous state, of

which this Eeport has attempted an outline, will, they believe, be found to

he borne out and corroborated by the Report of the Treasurer and Finance

Committee, to which they would respectfullv draw the attention of those

present, as well as of the body of members.
ADVERTISEMENT.
The Institution is not, as a body, responsible for the facts and opinions

advanced in the papers read, and in the Abstracts of the Conversations which

occurred at the Meetings during the Session.
Your Committee are glad to have to report the healthy state of the Finances

of your Institute during- the past year.
There has been a very large increase of Members and Graduates. The arrears

of subscribers paid up during- the year contrasts favourably with the

previous year, viz., £84 against £23. This favourable state is entirely due

to the energetic exertions of your Treasurer, Mr. Boyd; and your Committee

cannot allow this opportunity to pass without alluding' to the great

services received by your Institute from so valuable a Treasurer• but the

arrears for the current year amount to a very large sum• this, however,

arises from their having only recently been elected, and we have to draw the

attention of the Council to the matter. The arrears amount this year to

£95 against £92 last year.
A large number of members lose their membership this year in consequence of

their being two years in arrears. As these gentlemen have received copies

for two years of your valuable transactions, your Committee draw attention

to this. The amount of these arrears is £58 against £27 of the previous

year. It would greatly relieve your Treasurer, and secure the regular

payment of the Subscription, if your members would, as in other similar

Societies, give a general order on their Bankers to pay their Subscription

when due.
The expense incurred by printing and publishing the Transactions is very

similar to last year, viz., £450.
A new source of expenditure has been introduced during the past year, viz.,

grants to Committees appointed to investigate special and important

questions. The amount granted to the Tail-Rope Committee during the past

year has been £126. Your Committee feel sure that when the Report from this

Committee is completed that it will fully repay this expenditure.
The total amount received and expended during* the past year is very much

the same as for the previous year, both slightly in excess, so that the

balance for the year carried over is also very similar, viz., £323 against

£252, making the entire capital £3308 against £2984.
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Dr. THE TREASURER IN ACCOUNT WITH THE NORTH
For the Year ending
18G6. 39r.

£ s. d.
July 1.—To Balance in hands of Treasurer
from Fourteenth Year ...£965 18 5 „ Deposited in Messrs.

Lambton's
Bank ............700 0 0
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„ Balance in hands of Liquidators of District
Bank.................. 18 10 10
„ Bequest of the late B. Stephenson, Esq., invested on Mortgage of

Northumberland Dock Bates...............2000 0 0
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700 0 0
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Less Income Tax......... 1 11 8
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„ Interest on £300 deposited in Messrs. ^ Lambton's Bank, from June

30, 1866,
to June 30, 1867 ......... ^ ]r
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September 5,
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Kepier Grange ............ 2 2 0
Lambton ............... 10 10 0
Londonderry ............... 10 10 0
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Oct. 2, 1866..................... 20 0 0
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fattens-
His Grace the DUKE OF NORTHUMBERLAND.
The Right Honourable the EARL OP LONSDALE.
The Right Honourable the EARL GREY.
The Right Honourable the EARL OF DURHAM.
The Right Honourable the EARL VANE.
The Right Honourable LORD WHARNCLIFFE.
The Right Honourable LORD RAVENSWORTH.
The Right Reverend the LORD BISHOP OF DURHAM.
The Very Reverend the DEAN AND CHAPTER OF DURHAM.
WENTWORTH B. BEAUMONT, Esq., M.P.
WILLIAM ALEXANDER, Esq., Inspector of Mines, Glasgow. JOHN J. ATKINSON,

Esq., Inspector of Mines, Chilton Moor, Fence Houses. LIONEL BROUGH, Esq.,

Inspector of Mines, Clifton, Bristol. JOSEPH DICKINSON, Esq., Inspector of

Mines, Manchester. THOMAS EVANS, Esq., Inspector of Mines, Field Head House,

Belper. PETER HIGSON, Esq., Inspector of Mines, 94, Cross Street,

Manchester. THOMAS WYNNE, Esq., Inspector of Mines, Longton, North

Staffordshire. T. RUTHERFORD, Inspector of Mines, Halifax, Nova Scotia.
* JAMES P. BAKER, Esq., Inspector or Mines, Wolverhampton.
* ALFRED S. PALMER, Esq., Inspector of Mines, Port Mulgrave, Redcar,
Yorkshire.
* THOMAS E. WALES, Esq., Inspector of Mines, Swansea.
* RALPH MOORE, Esq., Inspector of Mines, Glasgow.
* G. W. SOUTHERN, Esq., Inspector of Mines, Yorkshire.
MATTHIAS DUNN, Esq., Ex-Inspector of Mines.
JOHN HEDLEY, Esq., Ex-Inspector of Mines.
CHARLES MORTON, Esq., Ex-Inspector of Mines.
GOLDSWORTHY GURNEY, Esq., Bude Castle, Cornwall.
M. DE BOUREUILLE, Commander de la Legion d'Honneur, Conseiller d'6tat

Inspector General of Mines, Paris.
DR. H. VON DECHEN, Berghauptmann, Bitter, etc., Bonn on the Rhine, Prussia.
HERR R. VON CARNALL, Berghauptmann, Rittcr, etc., Breslau, Silesia,

Prussia.
M. DE VAUX, Inspector General of Mines, Brussels, Belgium.
M. GONOT, Mining Engineer, Mons, Belgium.
H. J. MORTON, Esq., Garforth House, Leeds, Yorkshire. ?Honorary Members

during term of office only; elected under Rule 5 as altered.
OFFICERS, 1867-8. §t$8t(tyttt
THOS. E. FORSTER, 7, Ellison Place, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
JOHN TAYLOR, Earsdon, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
GEORGE ELLIOT, Betley Hall, Crewe.
EDWARD POTTER, Cramlington, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Sir W. G. ARMSTRONG, Jesmond, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
ISAAC LOWTHIAN BELL, Washington, Washington Station,
N.E. Railway. J. T. WOODHOUSE, Midland Road, Derby.
LINDSAY WOOD, Hetton Hall, Fence Houses.
JOHN DAGLISH, F.G.S., Belmont Hall, Durham.
T. DOUGLAS, Peases' West Collieries, Darlington.
G. B. FORSTER, Backworth, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
J. B. SIMPSON, Hedgefield House, Blaydon, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
Wm. COCHRANE, Seghill House, near Cramlington.
S. C. CRONE, Killingworth Colliery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
C. BERKLEY, Marley Hill Collieries, Gateshead.

\
JOHN MARLEY, Mining Offices, Darlington.
T. G. HURST, Backworth, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
J. T. RAMSAY, Walbottle Colliery.
A. L. STEAVENSON, Crossgate, Durham.
J. F. SPENCER, North Eastern Engine Works, Sunderland.
J. F. TONE, C.E., Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
R. S. NEWALL, Feme Dene, Gateshead.
H. T. MORTON, Lambton, Fence Houses.
T. E. HARRISON, C.E., Central Station, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
JAMES MORRISON, 34, Grey Street, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
HUGH TAYLOR, Earsdon. 1 ^^
WILLIAM ARMSTRONG, Wingate Grange, Ferry Hill. »
EDWARD F. BOYD, Moor House, Durham.
THEO. WOOD BUNNING, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
IKst of 3£tanfa?8,
AUGUST, 1867.
1 Ackroyd, Thomas, Berkenshaw, Leeds.
2 Adams, W., Severn House, Roath Road, Cardiff, Glamorganshire,
3 Aitken, Henry, Falkirk, North Britain.
4 Anderson, C. W., St. Hilda's Colliery, South Shields.
5 Anderson, Joseph. Solicitor, Neville Hall, Newcastle.
6 Anderson, William, Rainton Colliery, Fence Houses.
7 Appleby, Charles Edward, Reinshaw Iron Works, near Chesterfield.
8 Armstrong-, W., Wing-ate Grange, Ferry Hill, County of Durham.
9 Armstrong', C.B., Sir W. G., Jesmond, Newcastle.
10 Ashwell, Hatfield, Anchor Colliery, Long-ton, North Staffordshire.
11 Asquith, Thomas, Harton Colliery, South Shields.
12 Attwood, Charles, Holywood House, Wolsingham, Darling-ton.
13 Aytoun, Robert, 3, Fettes Row, Edinburgh.
14 Bag-nail, jun., Thomas, Whitby, Yorkshire.
15 Bailes, jun., Thos., 3, Queen's Terrace, Gateshead.
16 Bailey, W. W., Kilburn, near Derby.
17 Bailey, Samuel, The Pleck, Wallsall, Staffordshire.
18 Barkus, jun., Wm., Tynemouth.
19 Barklay, A., Engineer, Kilmarnock, North Britain.
20 Bartholomew, C, Doncaster, Yorkshire.
21 Bassett, A., Tredeg-ar Mineral Estate Office, Cardiff, Glamorganshire.
22 Beacher, E., Thorncliffe and Chapeltown Collieries, Sheffield.
23 Beanlands, Arthur, University College, Durham.
24 Bell, John, Normanby Mines, Middlesbro'-on-Tees.
25 Bell, Isaac Lowthian,Washington,Washington Station, N.E. Railway.
26 Bell, T., South Moor Colliery, Chester-le-Street, Durham.
27 Bell, jun., Thomas, Usworth Hall, Gateshead.
28 Benson, T. W., Cowpen Colliery, Blyth.
29 Berkley, C, Marley Hill Colliery, Gateshead, County of Durham.
30 Bewick, Thomas J., Neville Chambers, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
31 Bidder, B. P., Powell, Duffryn Collieries, Aberdare.
(xvii)
32 Bigland, J., Bedford Lodge, Bishop Auckland, County of Durham.
33 Binns, C, Claycross, Derbyshire.
34 Biram, Benjamin, Peasely Cross Collieries, St. Helen's, Lancashire.
35 Blackwell, J. Howard.
36 Bolckow, H. W. F., Middlesbro'-on-Tees, Yorkshire.
37 Bourne, P., Whitehaven, Cumberland.
38 Bourne, S., West Cumberland Hematite Iron Works, Workington.
39 Bourne, Thos. R., Rawcliff, Garstang, Lancashire.
40 Bowie, Alexander, Canonbie Colliery, Canonbie, Carlisle.
41 Boyd, Edward F., Moor House, Durham.
42 Boyd, M.E., Nelson, Belfast Foundry, Donegal Street, Belfast.
43 Boyd, William, Spring Gardens Engine Works, Newcastle-upon-
Tyne.
44 Breckon, J. R., Darlington.
45 Brettle, Thomas, Mine Agent, Dudley, Worcestershire.
46 Broadbent, Jubal C, Drake Street, Rochdale, Lancashire.
47 Brogden, James, Tondii Iron and Coal Works, Bridgend, Glamor-
ganshire.
48 Brown, J., Harbro' House, Barnsley, Yorkshire.
49 Brown, John N., 56, Union Passage, New Street, Birmingham.
50 Brown, Thos. Forster, Guildhall Chambers, Cardiff.
51 Brown, Ralph, Ryhope Colliery, Sunderland.
52 Bryden, John F., Hematite Iron Works, Whitehaven.
53 Bryham, William, Rose Bridge, &c, Collieries, Wigan, Lancashire.
54 Bryham, jun., Wm., Ince Hall, Wigan.
55 Burn, James, Rainton Colliery, Fence Houses.
56 Burrows, James, Douglas Bank, Wigan, Lancashire.
57 Buxton, William, Snibstone Collieries, near Leicester.
58 Cadwaladr, R., Broughton Colliery, Wrexham, Denbighshire.
59 Campbell, James, Staveley Works, Chesterfield.
60 Carr, Charles, Cramlington, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
61 Carr, William Cochrane, Blaydon, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
62 Carrington, jun., Thomas, Holywell House, Chesterfield.
63 Catron, Joseph, Wylam Colliery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
64 Chadborn, Beckit T., Pinxton Collieries, Alfreton, Derbyshire.
65 Childe, Rowland, Wakefield, Yorkshire.
66 Clark, William, Shotton and Haswell Collieries, Fence Houses.
67 Clark, Christopher Fisher, Garswood, Newton-le-Willows.
68 Clarke, Edmund, Colliery Guardian Office, Wigan.
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(xviii)
69 Cochrane, W., Seghill House, Dudley, Northumberland.
70 Cochrane, C, The Ellowes, near Dudley.
71 Cochrane, B., Alden Grange, Durham.
72 Cockburn, William, Hutton Low Cross Mines, Guishro', Yorkshire.
73 Cockburn, George, 8, Summerhill Grove, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
74 Coke, Richard George, Tapton Grove, Chesterfield, Derbyshire.
75 Cole, W. R., Bebside Colliery, Morpeth.
7Q Collis, "William Blow, Amblecote, Stourbridge, Worcestershire.
77 Cook, Richard, East Holywell Colliery, Earsdon, Newcastle-upon-
Tyne.
78 Cooke, John, 4, Mulberry Street, Darlington.
79 Cookson, Norman, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
80 Cooksey, Joseph, West Bromwich, Staffordshire.
81 Cooksey, J. H., West Bromwich, Staffordshire.
82 Cooper, Philip, Rotherham Colliery, Rotherham, Yorkshire.
83 Cooper, Thomas, Park Gate Colliery, Rotherham, Yorkshire.
84 Cope, J., Pensnett, Dudley, Worcester.
85 Cope, M.E., W. S., North Staffordshire.
86 Cossham, H., Hill House, Bristol, Somersetshire.
87 Coulson, W., Crossgate Foundry, Durham.
88 Cowen, jun., Joseph, Blaydon Burn, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
89 Coxon, S. B., Usworth Colliery, Washington Station, Durham.
90 Coxon, Alfred, Bedlington Colliery, Morpeth.
91 Craig, W. Y., Harncastle Colliery, Stoke-upon-Trent.
92 Crawford, T., Little Town Colliery, Durham.
93 Crawhall, G. E., St. Ann's Rope Works, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
94 Croften, J. G., Thornley Colliery Office, Ferry Hill.
95 Crone, S. C, Killingworth Colliery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
96 Crow, George, 2, Park Road, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
97 Crudace, S. D., Willington, Durham.
98 Crudace, Thomas, Waratah, Australia.
99 Curry, James, Turston, Pontefract.
100 Daglish, F.G.S., J., Dene House, Seaham Harbour.
101 Dakers, jun., Thomas, Willington Colliery, Durham.
102 Dakers, W., Seaham Collieries, Sunderland.
103 Darlington, James, Springfield House, near Chorley, Lancashire.
104 Darlington, John, Moorgate Street Chambers, London, E.C.
105 D avison, A., Hastings Cottage, Seaton Delaval, Newcastle-upon-
Tyne.
(xix)
106 Davidson, James, Newbattle Colliery, Dalkeith.
107 Dawson, Thomas, Garmondsway Moor, Ferryhill.
108 Dees, J. Whitehaven, Cumberland.
109 Dennis, Henry, Brynyr Owen, Ruabon, Denbighshire.
110 Dickinson,W. R., South Derwent Colliery, Annfield Plain,Gateshead.
111 Dixon, George, Lowther Street, Whitehaven, Cumberland.
112 Dobson, S., Halswell Cottage, Cardiff, Glamorganshire.
113 Doming, Elias, 41, John Dalton Street, Manchester.
114 Douglas, T., Peases' West Collieries, Darlington.
115 Dunn, C.E., Thomas, Windsor Bridge Iron Works, Manchester.
116 Dunne, D. G., Greenfield Colliery, Hamilton, North Britain.
117 Dyson, George, Britannia Iron Works, Fence Houses.
118 Easton, J., Nest House, Gateshead.
119 Elliot, G., Betley Hall, Crewe.
120 Elliott, W., Weardale Iron Works, Towlaw, Darlington.
121 Embleton, T. W., The Cedars, Methley, Leeds.
122 Evans, William, Ruabon Iron Works, Ruabon.
123 Feare, G., Camerton Coal Works, Bath.
124 Fenwick, Barnabas, Broomhill Colliery, Acklington.
125 Fidler, Edward, Piatt Lane Colliery, Wigan, Lancashire.
126 Firth, William, Birley Wood, Leeds.
127 Firth, S., 5, Port Street, Manchester.
128 Fletcher, C.E., Jos., 69, Lowther street, Whitehaven.
129 Fletcher, Isaac, Clifton Colliery, Workington.
130 Fletcher, Herbert, Ladyshire Colliery, Little Lever, Bolton, Lan-
cashire.
131 Foord, J. B., General Mining Association Secretary, 52, Broad
Street, London.
132 Forster, A.M., G. B., Backworth, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
133 Forster, Thomas E., 7, Ellison Place, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
134 Fothergill, Joseph, Cowpen and North Seaton Office, Quayside,
Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
135 Fowler, Geo., Donisthorpe, Ashby-de-la-Zouch, Leicestershire.
136 Frazer, Benjamin, 28, Broad Chare, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
137 Frazer, William, Rewcastle Chare, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
138 Francis, W., Cliff Terrace, Marske, near Redcar.
139 Fryer, Mark, Team Colliery, Gateshead.
(XX)
140 Gainsford, William Dunn, Darnall Hall, Sheffield.
141 Gainsford, Thos. R., Stafford Club, Burlington Gardens, London, W.
142 Gardner, M. B., Tondu Iron and Coal Works, Bridgend, Glamor-
ganshire.
143 Garforth, W. G., Lord's Field Colliery, Ashton-under-Lyne.
144 Gillett, F. C, 5, Wardwick, Derby.
145 Gilroy, G., Ince Hall Colliery, Wigan, Lancashire.
146 Glover, B. B., Mining Engineer, Newton-le-Willows, Lancashire.
147 Goddard, C.E., William, Golden Hill Colliery, Longton, North
Staffordshire.
148 Gooch, G. H. Lintz Colliery, Gateshead.
149 Gott, Wm. L., Shincliffe Collieries, Durham.
150 Greeves, J. 0., Roundwood Colliery, Horbury, Wakefield, Yorkshire.
151 Green, jun., Wm, 6, St. Mary's Terrace, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
152 Greener, Thos., Etherley Colliery, Darlington.
153 Greenwell, F.G.S., G. C. Poynton and Worth Collieries, Stockport,
Cheshire.
154 Greenway, Edward, Brierly Hill, Dudley, Worcestershire.
155 Greig, D., Leeds.
156 Haggie, P., Gateshead.
157 Hales, Onas, Oakpits Colliery, Mold, Flintshire.
158 Hall, T. Y., 11, Eldon square, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
159 Hall, William F., Shotton Colliery, Castle Eden, Ferryhill.
160 Hall, Henry, Haswell Colliery, Fence Houses.
161 Hanon, Jules, 91, Rue Herenthal, Antwerp.
162 Harden, J. W., Folshill Colliery, Coventry, Warwickshire.
163 Harper, Matthew, Whitehaven, Cumberland.
164 Harrison, C.E., T. E., Central Station, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
165 Harrison, Robert, Eastwood Collieries, Nottingham.
166 Harrison, W. B., Norton Hall, Cannock, Staffordshire.
167 Harper, J. P., Regent Terrace, London Road, Derby.
168 Hawthorn, C.E., W., Engineer, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
169 Hawthorn, Thomas, Engineer, 12, Elswick Villas, Newcastle-upon-
Tyne.
170 Herdman, John, Park Crescent, Bridgend, Glamorganshire.
171 Heckels, R., Wearmouth Colliery, Sunderland.
172 Hedley, Edward, Osmaston Street, Derby.
173 Hedley, W. H., Consett Collieries, Medomsley, by Gateshead.
(xxi)
174 Heppell, Thomas, Pelaw Main Colliery, Birtley, Fence Houses.
175 Heslop, James, Peases' West Collieries, Darlington.
176 Hetherington, David, Netherton, Morpeth.
177 Hewlett, Alfred, Haigh Colliery, Wigan, Lancashire.
178 Hindhaugh, Thos. S., Moreton Hall Colliery, near Chirk, Denbigh-
shire.
179 Higson, Jacob, 94, Cross Street, Manchester.
180 Higson, P., jun., Brookland, Swinton, Manchester.
181 Hill, Arthur.
182 Hilton, T. W., Haigh, Wigan.
183 Hodgson, R., Engineer, Whitburn, Sunderland.
184 Homer, Charles S., Chatterley Hall, Tunstall.
185 Hood, Archibald, Whitehill Colliery, Lasswade, Edinburgh.
186 Hopper, John, Britannia Iron Works, Houghton-le-Spring.
187 Horsley, W., Whitehill Point, Percy Main.
188 Horsfall, J. J., Fanbottom Colliery, Ashton-under-Lyne.
189 Horton, T. E. Prior's Lee Hall, Shiffnal, Shropshire.
190 Howard, Wm Frederick, Rosemount, Taunton, Somersetshire.
191 Hudson, James, Albion Mines, Pictou, Nova Scotia.
192 Humble, jun., Joseph, Garesfield, Blaydon-on-Tyne.
193 Humble, W. J., Forth Banks West Factory, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
194 Hunt, J. P., Corngreaves, Birmingham.
195 Hunt, A, H., Pelaw Main Office, Quayside, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
196 Hunter, Wm., Moor Lodge, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
197 Hunter, William, Morriston, Swansea, Glamorganshire.
198 Hunting, Charles, Fence Houses.
199 Huntsman, Benjamin, West Retford Hall, Retford.
200 Hurst, T. G., Backworth Colliery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
201 Jackson, Henry, Astley and Tyldesley Collieries, Tyldesley, Man-
chester.
202 Jackson, John, Clay Cross, Chesterfield.
203 Jenkins, M.E., William, 3, Brighton Terrace, Roath, Cardiff.
204 Jobling, T. W., Point Pleasant, Wallsend, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
205 Johnson, John, Chilton Hall, Ferry Hill.
206 Johnson, R. S , Haswell, Fence Houses.
207 Joicey, John, Urpeth Hall, Fence Houses.
208 Jones, E., Granville Lodge, Wellington, Salop.
209 Kenrick, Wm. Wynn, Wynn Hall, near Ruabon, Denbighshire.
(xxii)
210 Kendall, W., Blyth and Tyne Railway, Percy Main.
211 Kimpster, W., Quay, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
212 Knowles, A., High Bank, Pendlebury, Manchester.
213 Knowles, John, Pendlebury Colliery, Manchester.
214 Knowles, Thomas, Ince Hall, Wigan.
215 Knowles, jun., Andrew, Eagley Bank Colliery, Bolton, Lancashire. 210

Knowles, Kaye, Little Lever Colliery, near Bolton.
217 Knowles, R. M., Eagley Bank, Bolton.
218 Lamb, Robert, Cleator Moor Colliery, near Whitehaven.
219 Lamb, R. 0., Axwell Park, Gateshead.
220 Lancaster, John, Ashfield, Wigan.
221 Lancaster, jun., John, Hun wick and Newfield Collieries, Perry Hill.
222 Lancaster, Joshua, Kirkless, near Wigan.
223 Lancaster, Samuel, Kirkless Hall Colliery, Wigan.
224 Landale, Andrew, Lochgelly Iron Works, Fifeshire, North Britain.
225 Laverick, George Wm., Zion House, Chesterton, near Newcastle-
under-Lyne.
226 Laws, J., Blyth, Northumberland.
227 Lees, Samuel, Barrowshaw Colliery, Greenacres Moor, near Oldham.
228 Lever, Ellis, West Gorton Works, Manchester.
229 Levick, jun., P., Cwm Celyn and Blaina Iron Works, Newport,
Monmouthshire.
230 Lewis, Henry, Swannington Colliery, near Ashby-de-la-Zouch,
Leicestershire.
231 Lewis, T. Wm., Mardy, Aberdare, Glamorganshire.
232 Lewis, G. Coleorton Colliery, Ashby-de-la-Zouch.
233 Lewis, Wm. Thos., Mardy, Aberdare, Wales.
234 Liddell, J. R., Nedderton, Northumberland.
235 Liddell, M., Tynemouth.
236 Lindop, James, Bloxwich, Walsall, Staffordshire.
237 Lishman, Wm., Etherley Colliery, Darlington.
238 Lishman, Wm., Bunker Hill, Fence Houses.
239 Lishman, John, Ridsdale Iron Works, Bellingham.
240 Livesey, Thomas, Chamber Hall, Hollinwood, Manchester.
241 Livesey, Clegg, Bradford Colliery, Manchester.
242 Llewellin, David, Glanwern Offices, Pontypool, Monmouthshire.
243 Longridge, J., 3, Poet's Corner, Westminster, London, S.W.
244 Love, Joseph, Brancepeth Colliery, Durham.
245 Low, Wm , Vron Colliery, Wrexham, Denbighshire.
(xxiii)
246 Low, jun., Wm., Wrexham, Denbighshire.
247 Lloyd, Thomas, Brierly Hill, Worcestershire.
248 Maddison, W. P., Thornhill Colliery, Dewsbury, Wakefield.
249 Maddison, J., Alexander Street, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
250 Maddison, W., Coxlodge Colliery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
251 Mallett, C.E., F.R.S., Robert, 7,Westminster Chambers,Westminster,
London, S.W.
252 Mammatt, C.E., John E., Barnsley, Yorkshire.
253 Manners, G. T., Birtley Iron Works, Gateshead.
254 Marley, John, Mining Offices, Darlington.
255 Marshall, Robert, 10, Three Indian Kings Court, Quayside, New-
castle-upon-Tyne.
256 Marshall, John, Smithfold Colliery, Little Halton, near Bolton.
257 Marshall, F. C, Jarrow, South Shields.
258 Matthews, Richd. P., South Hetton Colliery, Fence Houses.
259 Maurice, Arthur H., Vron Colliery, Wrexham, Denbighshire.
260 Maurice, Mortimer B., Haswell Colliery, Fence Houses.
261 May, George, North Hetton Colliery, Fence Houses.
262 Maynard, Charles, America.
263 McCulloch, H. J., East Mount, York.
264 McDonald, Hugh, Kirkless Hall Coal and Iron Works, Wigan.
265 McGhie, Thos., Cannock Chase Colliery, Walsall, Staffordshire.
266 McGill, Robert, St. Helen's Colliery, St. Helen's, Lancashire.
267 McMurtrie, J., Radstock Colliery, Bath.
268 Middleton, J., Davison's Hartley Office, Quay, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
269 Miller, Robt., Strafford Collieries, near Barnsley.
270 Mitchinson, jun., Robt., Kibblesworth Colliery, Gateshead.
271 Monkhouse, Joseph, Gilcrux Colliery, Cockermouth.
272 Moore, J. H., Smeaton Park, Musselburgh, Edinburgh.
273 Morison, David P., Pelton Colliery, Chester-le-Street.
274 Morris, William, Waldridge Colliery, Chester-le-Street.
275 Morrison, James, 34, Grey Street, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
276 Morrison, H. M., Rainton Colliery, Durham.
277 Morton, H., Lambton, Fence Houses.
278 Morton, H. T., Lambton, Fence Houses.
279 Muckle, John, Monk Bretton, Barnsley.
280 Mulcaster, H., Colliery Office, Whitehaven.
281 Mulcaster, Joshua, Crosby Colliery, Maryport.
(xxiv)
282 Mulvany, Wm, Thos., 1335, Carls Thor, Dusseldorf on the Rhine,
Prussia.
283 Murray, B.
284 Murray, T. H., Chester-le-Street, Fence Houses.
285 Napier, Colin, Westminister Colliery, Wrexham, Denbighshire.
286 Naylor, Joshua T., 10, West Clayton Street, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
287 Nelson, C.E., James, Bonner's Field, Sunderland.
288 Newall, Robert Stirling, Fern Dene, Gateshead.
289 Nicholson, William, Seghill Colliery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
290 Nicholson, Marshall, Middleton Hall, Leeds.
291 Noble, Captain, Jesmond, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
292 North, Frederick, Arleston House, Smithwick, Birmingham.
293 Ogden, John M., Solicitor, Sunderland.
294 Oliver, Wm., Stanhope Burn Offices, Stanhope, Darling-ton.
295 Oliver, John, Victoria Colliery, Coventry.
296 Oliver, Geo., Peases' West Collieries, Darling-ton.
297 Palmer, C. M., Quay, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
298 Pearce, F. H., Bowling- Iron Works, Bradford, Yorkshire.
299 Pease, J. W., Woodlands, Darling-ton.
300 Peel, John, Spring-well Colliery, Gateshead.
301 Perrot, Sam. W., Hibernia and Shamrock Collieries, Gelsenkirchen,
Dusseldorf.
302 Pig-gford, Jonathan, Haswell Colliery, Fence Houses.
303 Pilking-ton, jun., Wm., St. Helen's Lancashire.
304 Potter, E., Cramling-ton, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
305 Potter, W. A., Monk Bretton, Barnsley, Yorkshire.
306 Powell, T., Coldea, Newport, Monmouthshire.
307 Ramsay, J. T., Walbottle Colliery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
308 Reed, Robert, Felling- Colliery, Gateshead.
309 Rees, Daniel, Lletty Shenkin Colliery, Aberdare, Glamorganshire.
310 Reskerne, J.
311 Richardson, Henry, Backworth Colliery, Newcastle.
312 Robson, J. S., Butterknowle Colliery, Staindrop, Darling-ton.
313 Robson, Neil, 127, St. Vincent Street, Glasgow.
314 Robson, Thomas, Lumley Colliery, Fence Houses.
(xxv)
315 Rockwell, Alfd. P., M.A., Norwich, Connecticut, United States,
America.
316 Ronaldson, James, Clough Hall Coal and Iron Works, Stoke-upon-
Trent.
317 Rosecamp, J., Acomb Colliery, Hexham.
318 Rose, Thomas, Millfield Iron Works, Bilston, Wolverhampton,
Staffordshire.
319 Ross, A., Shipcote Colliery, Gateshead.
320 Rosser, Wm., Mineral Surveyor, Llanelly, Carmarthenshire.
321 Routledge, William (J. B. Foord), 52, Old Broad

Street,
London, E.C.
322 Russell, Robert, Gosforth Colliery, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
323 Sanderson, R. B., West Jesmond, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
324 Sanderson, Thomas, Seaton Delaval, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
325 Seddon, Wm., Lower Moor Collieries, Oldham, Lancashire.
326 Shield, Hugh, Woodifield and Whitelee Collieries, Crook, Darlington.
327 Shortreed, Thos., Park House, Winstanley, Wigan.
328 Simpson, L., South America, per E. Simpson, Dipton, Gateshead.
329 Simpson, R., R}-ton Moor House, Blaydon, Newcastle-on-Tyne.
330 Simpson, John Bell, Hedgefield House, Blaydon.
331 Smith, F., Bridgewater Offices, Manchester.
332 Smith, jun., J., Mining Engineer, Thornley Colliery, Sunderland.
333 Smith, Edmund J., 14, Whitehall Place, Westminster, London, S.W.
334 Smith, Thomas Taylor, Oxhill, Chester-le-Street.
335 Smith, H. Nelson, Albert Chambers, Corporation Street, Man-
chester.
336 Snowball, James, Stourbridge Fire Clay Works, Gateshead.
337 Sopwith, F.G.S., etc., T., 103, Victoria Street,

Westminster,
London, S.W.
338 Southern, Robert, Cassop Colliery, Ferryhill.
339 Spark, H. K., Darlington, County of Durham.
340 Spencer, T., Ryton, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
341 Spencer, J. F., North-Eastern Engine Works, Sunderland.
342 Spencer, W., West Staveley Colliery, Chesterfield.
343 Steavenson, A. L,, Crossgate, Durham.
344 Stephenson, W. H., Summerhill Grove, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
345 Stephenson, George R, 24, Great George Street, Westminster,
London, S.W.
346 Steel, Charles R., Ellenborough Colliery, Mary port, Cumberland.
d
(xxvi)
347 Stenson, W. T., Whitwick Colliery, Coalville, near Leicester.
348 Stobart, H. S., Witton-le-W ear, Darling-ton.
349 Stott, James, Basford Hall, Stoke-on-Trent.
350 Straker, John, West House, Tynemouth.
351 Sutcliffe, John C, North Gawber Colliery, Barnsley.
352 Swallow, R. T., Pontop Colliery, Gateshead.
353 Swallow, John, Harton Colliery, South Shields.
354 Taylor, H., Earsdon, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
355 Taylor, H., Tynemouth.
356 Taylor, J., Earsdon, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
357 Telford, W., Cramlington, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
358 Thomas, William, Towlaw Iron Works, Darling-ton.
359 Thompson, John, Norley Colliery, Wigan, Lancashire.
360 Thompson, Joseph, Seaham Colliery, Sunderland.
361 Thompson, John, Marley Hill Colliery, Gateshead.
362 Thompson, John, Field House, Hoole, Chester.
363 Thompson, T. C, Milton Hall, Carlisle, Cumberland.
364 Thompson, Astley, Kedwelly, Carmarthenshire.
365 Thompson, James, Bishop Auckland.
366 Thorman, John, Ripley, Derbyshire.
367 Tone, C.E., John F., Westgate Street, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
368 Trotter, J., Newnham, Gloucestershire.
369 Truran, Matthew, Dowlais Iron Works, Merthyr Tydvil, Glamor-
ganshire.
370 Vaughan, John, Middlesbro'-on-Tees.
371 Vaughan, Thomas, Middlesbro'-on-Tees.
372 Varley, James, Waterloo Foundry, St. Helen's, Lancashire.
373 Waddington, C. L. Burnley, Lancashire.
374 Waller, William, 82, Northgate, Darlington.
375 Ward, Henry, Priestfield Iron Works, Oaklands, Wolverhampton.
376 Wardell, Frank N., Plashetts Colliery, Falstone, Hexham.
377 Warrington, John, Kippax, near Leeds.
378 Watkin, Wm. J. L., Pemberton Colliery, Wigan.
379 Watson, W., High Bridge, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
380 Webster, R. C, Ruabon Collieries, Ruabon, Denbighshire.
381 Weeks, John G., Ryton, near Blaydon-on-Tyne.
382 Westmacott, Percy G. B., Elswick Iron Works, Newcastle.
(xxvii)
383 Whalley, Thomas, Orrell Mount, Wigan.
384 White, Jos., T. 68, Westgate, Wakefield.
385 Williams, E. (Bolckow, Vaughan, and Co., Middlesbro'.)
386 Willis, James, Washington Colliery, Washington Station, County
of Durham.
387 Wilmer, F. B., Duffryn Collieries, Aberdare, Wales.
388 Wilson, J. B., Haydock, near St. Helen's, Lancashire.
389 Wilson, R., Flimby Colliery, Maryport, Cumberland.
390 Wilson, J. Straker, Tynemouth.
891 Wood, C. L., Black Boy Colliery, Bishop Auckland.
392 Wood, Lindsay, Hetton Colliery, Fence Houses.
393 Wood, W. H., West Hetton, Ferry Hill.
394 Wood, John, Flockton Collieries, Wakefield, Yorkshire.
395 Wood, William O., Brancepeth Colliery, Durham.
396 Woodhouse, J. T., Midland Road, Derby.
397 Wright, C, Tylden, Shireoak Colliery, Worksop, Nottinghamshire.
398 Yardley, John, Burnttree, Tipton.
1 Armstrong, L., Cowpen Colliery, Blyth, Northumberland.
2 Armstrong, jun., William, Seaham Colliery, Sunderland.
3 Auberey, jun., William.
4 Bainbridge, Emerson, Londonderry Collieries, Durham.
5 Booth, R. L., Medomsley, by Gateshead.
6 Coates, C. N., Skelton Mines, Guisbro'.
7 Cowlishaw, John, 74, Osmaston Street, Derby.
8 Crawford, Thos., Howlish Offices, Bishop Auckland.
9 Dodd, Benj., Seaton Delaval Colliery, Newcastle.
10 Embleton, jun., T. W., The Cedars, Methley, Leeds.
11 Gilchrist, Thos., Newbottle Colliery, Fence Houses.
12 Griffith, N. G., Cowpen Collieries, Blyth.
13 Harrison, John G.
14 Maughan, James A., Benwell Colliery, Newcastle.
15 Parrington, Matthew, Normanby Mines, Middlesbro'-on-Tees.
16 Peile, William, Corkickle Forge, Whitehaven, Cumberland.
17 Ramsay, Thomas Dunlop, Trimdon Colliery, Ferry Hill.
18 Ridley, George, Cowpen Colliery, Blyth, Northumberland.
(xxviii)
19 Simpson, J., TWneley Colliery, Blaydon-on-Tyne.
20 Siddon, Frederick, Wigan, Lancashire.
21 Sopwitli, Arthur, 103, Victoria Street, Westminster, London, S.W.
22 Taylor, W. N., Ryhope Colliery, Sunderland.
23 Wardell, Stuart C, Towneley Colliery, Blaydon, Newcastle.
24 White, H., Moorhouse, Durham.
25 Wright, George H., Rainton Colliery, Fence Houses.
26 Verner, Frederick, Cowpen Colliery, Blyth.
3Kat of Jkfeqilmtij d|Allii»i|i£L
Owners of Stella Colliery, Ryton, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
„ Kepier Grange Colliery, hy Durham.
„ Leasingthorne Colliery, Ferry Hill.
„ Westerton Colliery, Ferry Hill.
„ Black Boy Colliery, Bishop Auckland.
„ North Hetton Colliery, Fence Houses.
„ Haswell Colliery, Fence Houses.
„ South Hetton and Murton Collieries, Fence Houses.
,, Earl Durham, Lambton Collieries, Fence Houses.
„ Hetton Collieries, Fence Houses.
„ Whitworth Colliery, Ferry Hill.
„ Ryhope Colliery.
„ Rainton Collieries. (Earl Vane.)
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Page 24, 10th line from bottom. For my safety-cages, read many safety-cages.

Page 26, 7th line from bottom. For over the pulleys, read up to the

pulleys.
NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEERS.
GENERAL MEETING, SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 1866, IN THE ROOMS
OF THE INSTITUTE, NEVILLE HALL, WESTGATE STREET,
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
T. E. FORSTER, Esq., President op the Institute, in the Chair.
The following gentlemen were elected members of the Institute:— Edward

Fidler, Piatt Lane Colliery, Wigan; Arthur Hill Maurice, Vron Collieries,

Wrexham, Denbighshire; Mortimer B. Maurice, Haswell Colliery Office, Fence

Houses; W. Kendall, Blyth and Tyne Railway, Percy Main ; J. Humble, Forth

Banks West Factory, Newcastle-upon-Tyne.
The Secretary read the minutes of the council meetings ; after which it was

agreed that the sum of £50 each, as recommended by the Council, should be

granted to the Tail-rope and Endless-chain Committee, and also to the

committee appointed to investigate the subject of Coal-cutting Machines, in

order to defray any necessary expense those committees might incur.
Mr. J. J. Atkinson requested permission for the papers that had been read by

him on the Ventilation of Mines to be translated into French. After some

conversation on the subject, the motion that this request be granted was

acceded to.
Mr. A. L. Steavenson said, that Mr. Atkinson's request induced him to ask

whether, in case a member of the Institute met with information or a paper

in another language which seemed likely to be useful to the Vol. XVI.—1866,


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NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEERS.
GENERAL MEETING, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 4, 18(56, IN THE ROOMS
OP THE INSTITUTE, NEVILLE HALL, WESTGATE STREET,
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
T. E. FORSTER, Esq., President of the Institute, in the Chair.
The following1 new Members were elected, viz. : Mr. James Nelson, Bonner's

Field, Sunderland; Mr. Benjamin Frazer, 28, Broad Chare; and Mr. William

Frazer, Rewcastle Chare, Newcastle.
A letter was read from Mr. Daglish, calling- attention to a new form of

safety-lamp, a specimen of which was shown, the object of which was the

extinction of the light either by a fall or any attempt at opening* it.
A recommendation by the Council, that a Steam-indicator and Dynamometer

should be purchased for the use of the Institute, both instruments being-

required immediately to carry out some experiments, was put to the meeting

and carried unanimously.
CHRONICLES OF THE COAL-TRADE.
Mr. Green's paper on this subject came on for discussion.
Mr. Boyd enquired if Mr. Green had entered on the subject of the

registration of colliery plans as well as of colliery documents ?
Mr. Green said, he had nothing' to mention further than what was contained

in Mr. Thomas' pamphlet.
Mr. Boyd said, the object of having1 a registration of colliery plans was to

prevent accidents through entering seams which had been drowned
6
out. The difficulty was, that proprietors of mines might possibly object to

their private plans being- published. It would very much enlarge the scope

of Mr. Green's paper if plans as well as memoranda were registered. It

seemed to him that the Institute was the very place where such a record

should be kept.
Mr. Green said, that members might be solicited to give papers, books, or

plans for that purpose.
Mr. Boyd said, the Council should propose a measure, if agreed to by all

parties, by which application should be made to proprietors of collieries

for any plans they might be willing to contribute.
Mr. Green said, that some time ago it was proposed that there jhould be a

record of borings.
Mr. G. B. Forster—Alluvial borings. ¦»
The President said, Mr. Thomas was very strongly in favour of it, and Mr.

Buddie also; but there was a jealousy on the part of the coalowners. He did

not think, however, that in these enlightened times coalowners could feel so

much objection as they did at that time.
A Member remarked that there would be a difficulty in keeping the plans up.
The President did not think there would be any difficulty. They might send

their graduates to copy the plans recorded.
Mr. Green said, he thought Mr. Buddie's idea was to have the plans of

exhausted seams, not working plans, recorded.
Mr. A. L. Steavenson said, if it was only the plans of seams worked out

there would be no objection, and those were the most important.
M. GUIBAL'S VENTILATOK.
Mr. A. L. Steavenson read a paper " On some Experiments with the Covered

Ventilator of M. Guibal, at the Colliery of Crachet and Picquery, at

Frameries." The paper was illustrated with a diagram and plans.
Mr. Tone said, there was a remarkable circumstance connected with the

diagram which he had noticed along with Mr. Wood and Mr. Simpson.

Immediately on the admission of steam there was an immense increase of

pressure in the cylinder, followed immediately by great exhaustion. There

was first an increase, and then a decrease. Mr. Wood and Mr. Simpson

suggested that this might be due to some dynamical question. As far as his

experience went, that opinion seemed correct. He had found the same thing

in the construction of hydraulic
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rams. It will be found in accordance with what is expected. You let in the

first opening a large quantity of steam. This passes through a long channel

with the ordinary pressure on the innermost circle. There is great speed,

and the pressure is not statical, but dynamical. There is an impact on the

cylinder which drives it suddenly, and it goes faster than the steam would

drive it statically; but there is not sufficient to follow it up. This

agreed with what his experience had shown him in the action of water. Other

gentlemen would givre him their experience with regard to other fluids.
Mr. Easton said, the lead of the slide would have something to do with it.
Mr. Tone—Still the dynamical question remains.
Mr. Easton—The lead of the slide would have a great deal to do with the form

of the diagram.
Mr. J. B. Simpson said, he had noticed the same curious diagram in a

fan-engine; but, in his case, the slow velocities gave a better diagram than

quick ones. When the revolutions were great, the steam being admitted at a

great pressure, gave the piston such a velocity that the steam could not

follow it fast enough, and hence the irregularity of the diagram; in other

words, the steam was mire-drawn.
Mr. A. L. Steavenson said, he should attribute it to the steam being applied

too quick before it got over the centre.
Mr. Daglish said, that might be so in the first rise. After that it was due

to the spring of the indicator.
Mr. Tone said, the faster the steam was passing along the cylinder there was

less pressure. He had had some experience of water pipes, and had known them

burst by the opening or shutting of a valve. For a length of four or five

miles it would burst the pipe in severa! places.
Mr. Easton said, the same effect was produced in shutting off the steam in

engines, and especially in one attached to these ventilating machines.
Mr. Wm. Wood remarked that, in all the experiments he had heard of in

England made with Guibal's ventilator, the effect of the shutter had not

been carried out the same as in Belgium.
Mr. Cochrane said^ if the shutter is badly regulated, and at the top of the

chimney, where the air is discharged from the mine, there is let fall

eider-down or small bits of paper, you can observe currents going down the

chimney though 100,000 cubic feet of air per minute is
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being" discharged from it; but if the shutter is properly regulated no such

thing* occurs. The currents are steady up the whole area. This shows that

there is some effect in the shutter. M. Guibal urges that this is a detail

which cannot, except by experiment, be regulated. There is no mathematical

formula which will fix the proper area of the discharge. It requires

experiment. The shutter affords you the means of regulation, and, once

regulated, you never vary the shutter unless you vary the conditions.
Mr. Boyd inquired if there was sufficient weight laid on the question of

exhaustion ? If these large segments were to be filled with air from the

mine, there should be some means of making a vacuum previously. They must

fill with external air in the first instance, unless they are made

air-tight.
Mr. Cochrane said, that the casing was perfectly air-tight, except from the

outlet.
Mr. Daglish said, the fan was not air-tight to the cover.
Mr. Cochrane said, no ; there is a clearance of about one inch between the

circumference of the fan and the inside of the casing; and this clearance is

increased towards the chimney.
Mr. Tone said, as soon as you set the fan in motion it clears itself. There

is a centrifugal motion established.
Mr. Cochrane said, the fan was filled from the centre. As fast as the

discharged air was removed fresh air rushed in from the centre to supply its

place.
Mr. Morison said, he would give the meeting one or two experiments which he

had made the day before at Pelton Colliery. The first experiment was made

with the shutter fully open, the water-gauge being 1*85, and the discharge

of air from the mine 59,911 cubic feet per minute. At three-quarters open

the discharge was 61,064 cubic feet per minute. At half-open both

water-gauge and air decreased sensibly. When the shutter was put down as

close as the chimney would allow, the water-gauge, instead of being 1*85,

was only 1*43, and the discharged air was only 54,074 cubic feet. It was

suggested to him that there was not so good an effect obtained as M. Guibal

expected, the shutter not coming down to the full extent. A board was then

inserted at the bottom of the shutter, and the shutter placed in each of its

positions • but, instead of a better result, a much worse result was

obtained. In the first experiment, with the shutter open, they got 51,463

cubic feet instead of 59,911; at three-quarters they got only
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50,311; at half open, 49,542; and at a quarter open only 36,809. The

following is a tabular view of the experiments :—
EXPERIMENTS ON SLIDING- SHUTTER (VANNE REGULATRICE) OF GUIBAL'S

VENTILATOR.—Pelton Colliery, 3rd Oct., I860.
"3 Position Steam in Water-

Bevolu- Quantity of
*SS of Shutter. Boilers. Heroin- Water- Range at turns of

Air. Pimensi-v-s of Aperture
• .a ----- ----- tionsof gage at Bottom

Anemo- ---- of ! 'ischarge ¦ I
% % l=open. lbs. per Fan per "Ouie" of meter per

Cubic feet Sliding Shutter.
* 0 = close, sq. in. Minute. inches. Chimney Minute,

per minute
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ft. in. ft. in.
11 41 50 1-85 0-1 750 59,911

9 10* X 4 8
2 I- 41 50 I 1-95 0-1 j 770

61,064 9 10J X 3 10
3 i 38 491 I 1*77 ... I 745

59,528 9 10* X 2 9
j I
4 \ 37 49 ! 1-6 ... j 725 58,145 9 10J- X 1 10
5 0 38 49 ! 1-43 ... ! 670 54,074

9 10| X 0 10
6 1 36 51 1-23 ... 635

51,463 .........
7 I 36 51 1-22 ... 620

50,311
8 i 36 55 1-12 ... 610

49,542 .........
9 * 37 55* 0-72 ... 435

36,869 .........
Mr. Cochrane said, these experiments were conclusive as to the proper

adjustment of the shutter. A point between three-quarters and full open gave

the best results. They were also conclusive on the shape of the chimney. A

mere ten-inch board placed in the chimney as described interfered with the

ventilation to the extent of 10,000 feet per minute. At Elswick he found the

most effective opening was three-quarters, above and below that there was

less volume and less water gauge.
Mr. Morison said, it might be interesting to hear one or two figures as to

the comparative power of the furnace and fan at Pelton Colliery. With the

furnace—'the average temperature of the upcast being 235 degrees—the utmost

quantity of air obtained was 48,860 cubic feet per minute. On October 18th,

1865, they set the furnace to work for both seams, and the result was 31,800

cubic feet in the upper seam, and 17,000 in the lower seam, giving a total

of 48,800 cubic feet. On
* In experiments Nos. 6 to 9 the ten inches of aperture with the shutter at

0 were boarded up. The board, however, being a direct impediment to the

exhaust of the air, the useful effect greatly decreased; and at experiment

No. 9, where the shutter was lowered to quarter open, or within twelve

inches of the board, the water-gauge fell immediately, and the speed of the

fan increased to such an extent that nearly one-half of the steam had to be

shut off to keep the revolutions down to about 55.
Vol. XVI.—1866.

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October 23rd, they set the fan to work in both seams. The water-gauge,

which, by the furnace alone was 0'9, rose to 2*15, and the quantity of air

was 82,377 cubic feet. This, he believed, was with one-quarter or one-third

the coal consumed in the furnace. They got the water-gauge to 3-35 inches,

and the total quantity of air was 142,362 cubic feet. This was at the

greatest speed they had tried so far, seventy strokes per minute.
The President—What was the depth ?
Mr. Morison—320 and 540 feet in depth.
Mr. J. B. Simpson said, he could speak of the efficiency of Guibal's

ventilator for shallow depths. He had recently put up one, the engine

cylinder of which was eight inches diameter. The fan was sixteen feet

diameter, and, with the water-gauge at -6, with fifty revolutions per

minute, they got 30,000 cubic feet of air per minute. At seventy-four

strokes they got 45,000 feet with the water-gauge 1*0. He could also speak

of the great economy of the ventilator. They required, in this case, no

extra labour, and no more coals. The waste steam of the boilers drives the

fan. The pit was only forty-four fathoms in depth, with two seams working

each 600 yards from the shaft, and the workings extending on each side.
Mr. A. L. Steavenson said, that as some gentlemen had referred to other

fans, he hoped they would bring the quantity of coals used in comparison

with the coals used in the furnace.
Mr. J. Daglish said, they could not work the fan where they had underground

boilers. These would destroy the fan.
Mr. A. L. Steavenson thought they might protect the fan by putting it in

galvanised iron.
Mr. J. Daglish thought this would be only a temporary protection.
The President said, hitherto they had heard only one side. At shallow depths

it did well; but when they came to 250 or 260 fathoms, the question was,

whether the furnace or the ventilator would be best ?
Mr. Easton said, he thought the furnace at great depths was decidedly more

economical.
Mr. A. L. Steavenson said, he had given, from Mr. Atkinson's paper, the

depths at which the furnace was equal to the ventilating machine.
The President said, they were very much indebted to Mr. Steavenson for his

paper, and he would propose that they give him a vote of thanks, and that

the paper be printed. It would be further discussed at the next monthly

meeting.
The motion was carried unanimously.
ON SOME EXPERIMENTS
WITH THE
COVERED VENTILATOR OF M. GUIBAL,
AT THE
C0LLIEKY OF CRACHET & PICQUERY, AT FRAMERIES.
Br MM. GILLE et FRANEAU, Mining Engineers.
TRANSLATED, AND READ OCTOBER 4th, 1866,
By A. L. STEAVENSON.
INTRODUCTION.
So long as I bring under your notice any new facts connected with a subject

of such great importance as that of ventilation, I offer no apology for

their not having been obtained by my own experiments.
The entire theory of ventilation has been supplied to us by Mr. Atkinson, in

his paper contained in the third volume of our " Transactions;" and he has

further elucidated the subject which we have especially before us to-day, in

the paper contained in the sixth volume, " On the Comparative Consumption of

Fuel by Furnaces and Machines," so that it only remains for us to examine

any new system, and to make its merits thoroughly apparent, and, with this

view, I have the pleasure of calling your attention to a large number of

experiments made with a ventilating machine, which has already been

described by Mr. W. Cochrane, in the fourteenth volume of " Transactions of

the Mining Institute." I have been promised that, in the discussion of this

paper, further facts will be brought forward, and, I believe, they will all

tend to lead to the entire discontinuance of the furnace as a ventilating

agent. There are, of course, extreme depths at which a furnace can do

effective work, but the objections peculiar to itself will serve to turn the

scale against it under all circumstances. I will briefly call your

attention to
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a table, given at page 142, Vol. VI., by Mr. Atkinson, showing- the depths

at which furnaces become equal to ventilating machines under an average

state of circumstances, viz.:—
Consumption of Coal by Average Temperature of Upcast Columns.
Engine in lbs. per Hour,

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per HoTsp-power
Expended. 100 deg. Fan. 150 deg. Fan.

200 deg. Fab.
8 479 522 565
10 383 417 452
12 319 348 370
Depth in Fathoms.
And if there is taken an average loss of heat from furnaces before reaching

the average prevailing temperature of the upcast of forty per cent., and

which is shown to be a fair allowance, then the above depths will answer to

the conditions afforded by a ventilating machine, utilising-sixty per cent,

of the engine-power and to those of the machine at present before us.
I originally prepared this translation for my own use, but finding-the

subject so thoroughly treated, it appeared to be very desirable that the

information contained in it should be made readily and generally available,

at a time like the present when mechanical ventilation is becoming commonly

applied. I have endeavoured, as far as possible, to give the literal meaning

of the text, and with little if any curtailment.
TKANSLATION.
Several members of this Association have requested, at different times, that

I should make known the results of the experiments which have been made,

recently, with my ventilator (Plate I.), at the Colliery of Crachet and

Picquery, at Frameries (Belgium). Not having been able to answer directly

many of these requests, I think it best to reply generally, by communicating

the results of these experiments to you.
I shall state hereafter with what object, and under what conditions, these

experiments have been made. There is not, as you know, a machine, the laws

of which are still more obscure than the fan-ventilator, working by the

effects of centrifugal force. Also, the results of the apparatus, based on

this principle, which I have applied to the ventilation of mines, appeax

inexplicable to engineers who have proved it, and altogether inadmissible to

those who have not seen it to realise with their own eyes. But there should

be nothing surprising in the presence of theories, the insufficiency of

which is generally admitted. These theories demonstrate in fact, that

without treating the resistances in the same
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manner, the centrifugal-force ventilators working by suction, cannot utilise

more than a fraction of the work transmitted to their axis. However, I

believe from this time, that a machine of the same kind can reach, and

itself draw out, a result practically of sixty per cent, of the work of the

steam on the piston of the machine employed to move it.
Since there cannot be a false theory (because that has not truth which is

not true), we shall comprehend that there exists between the old machine and

the new some differences of condition of action, which, in themselves, were

due to the apparent contradiction between the indications of science and the

facts furnished by practice. But these differences were so visible, that one

could perceive them without effort, since the old ventilator was designed to

throw off the air at all points of its circumference (an arrangement

specially patented in each design every time by the inventors), whilst the

new machine, in a covering, throws out the air by a tangential opening-, in

which the size regulates itself practically according to the volume which it

exhausts under the depression produced, and discharges into the atmosphere

by a chimney, of a section progressively increasing, by which means the air

is given off with the most feeble speed possible.
But in these arrangements, apparently more adapted to constitute a

ventilator for blowing than exhausting, the blowing machines are found in

effect very advantageous. Some have seen in the covering a cause of

resistance, in the shutter which regulates the outlet only an obstacle to

the exhaustion of the air, and in the chimney a superfluity. In consequence,

some have denied any advantage.
However, all mechanics know well that force itself is not lost; that a

machine of the theoretical power of twenty horses, which does not produce

more than five usefully, gives off fifteen to produce no effect. They can

then comprehend that there is something to gain in a machine which renders

in labour 25 per cent, of the work consumed.
But erroneous principles are difficult to detect when they have had free

course for a long time, so that many of those who themselves admit the

results furnished by the new ventilator, cannot explain the effects of the

arrangements which are special to it, suspecting its superiority, and

attributing it to the greatness of the diameter which it presents in very

many of its applications, or to conditions (which they think exceptional) of

some mines in which it is established; whilst others, more logical, admit

that the new results are due to modifications in the appliance, yet they

impute it most frequently, some to the covering-, some to the shutter, and

others to the chimney.
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In the meantime, I am able to publish the theory (much more simple than some

had thought) of the new ventilator, and give the measure of the effect of

the covering, of the chimney, and of the slide, which have been furnished

me. It appears that these experiments have furnished complete warrants and

safe guides, and will be better assistance than the stated opinion of the

greatest number. These experiments, to be entirely convincing, should be

made on the same machine. First without the envelope, then they should be

arranged according to the old system of ventilators at our mines, afterwards

with a cover without the slide, then with the cover and slide, and at length

with cover, slide, and chimney.
To MM. Gille and Franeau, engineers of the Mining Association, being in the

habit of judging of the currents of air, and of measuring the work of

machinery, thanks are due, having been kind enough to take charge of the

carrying out of this programme. And I have also to give, without name, the

thanks of the society to the managers of the collieries of Crachet and

Picquery, having been the means of realising the results during the

construction of the apparatus which I have furnished to them.
In all the experiments which have been made, there has been kept—
1st. The measure of the depression obtained, by measurements of the column

of water, simple or multiplied, tried in many different places in the

chamber, so as to control the indications one by the other.
2nd. The currents of air have been measured by the anemometrical system of

Combes, and by the English system, carefully examining beforehand, during

the observation, all points in the section of the gallery.
3rd. The work of the engine has been measured with one of Watt's indicators

(which we had tested on many occasions), placed alternately on the top and

bottom of the cylinder.
We measured the time by means of a second-pointer.
I lay before you the result of fifty-three experiments which we have made,

and in which you will find all the indications which have been got. The

diagrams are with them, so that you can test the accuracy of the

calculations.
It is not necessary for me to give you an account of the numerous figures

which compose their tables; it would be useless. I find it more important to

give a resume of the results which proceed from them, at least to save you

the trouble of the research. All that remains is to assure you of their

accuracy, when these documents are placed in your hands.
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Although it has not been considered necessary, in the course of these

experiments, to measure the work given off by the machine to overcome its

own resistance—that is to say, in making it work the ventilator without the

vanes—the results furnished by the machine, under these conditions, should

be examined.
Four experiments (Nos. 15 to 18) have been made on the ventilator without

vanes and without covering', and we have made eight (Nos. 19 to 26) also

without vanes, but the envelope was constructed, altogether twelve

experiments, in which the speed varied from 18"75 to 84*50 revolutions per

minute. The object proposed to be reached was to know the force disposable

on the axis of the ventilator in the latter experiments, a knowledge of

extreme importance in studying the theory of the machine.
Observe the speeds of the machine, and their separation into two columns,

according as they have been obtained without the cover and with the cover;

the quantities of work yielded by the machine, of which care had been taken

to have it well oiled.
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It is easy to see, on an inspection of the numbers, that the work of the

machine increases very rapidly with the speed, nearly as the square of it.

And, indeed, if we compare the experiment No. 20 with that of No. 18, for

example, we find that the first has absorbed 3-52 horsepower ; the second

should have absorbed (according1 to the law of the square of the speed) 22

horse-power, and it has required 24-80.
In tracing- a curve, with the number of revolutions for abscissae, and the

force in horse-power for the ordinates, we obtain obviously a parabola; and

the curve so obtained can afford the work absorbed at other speeds than

those at which the observations had been recorded. (See Plate II.).
These results are very surprising in themselves, so that they struck my

attention forcibly. In the actual study of them there is nothing- I need

note, but I think I ought to add that they are found to be confirmed by the

experiments of the same kind made on another machine, constructed in a

different manufactory.
In the two cases the machines were working for the first time.
If we find the work occasionally less at the same speed, when the machine is

not covered than when it is provided with a cover, I think that that gives

reason to believe in some special cause, for evidently the cover cannot be

the cause. It will be sufficient if some bolt is more tight one day than

another, or less properly oiled, may occasion the difference.
The fan, provided with vanes, has been tried without the cover, and with

it—first, in hindering the air of the mine from coming in; second, in

allowing it access.
When the machine was not acting on the air of the mine, it had not to

overcome anything but the passive resistance, so that it could not produce

any useful effect.
Here I append a table of the results of thirteen experiments made in

preventing the air of the mine from communicating with the fan.
There are here two comparisons to be made; the one relative to depressions,

the other concerning- the work absorbed.
From the depressions, we determine easily that they increase sensibly as the

square of the velocity (which is conformable to theory), whether the machine

is or is not covered; only they are generally a little higher when the

machine is covered. In the two cases, the depressions are higher than the

centrifugal force should afford. The curves drawn on these conditions and

compared with the theoretic parabola of depressions, furnishes a means of

comparison very significant. (See Plate II.)
Relative to the work available, the figures in the table determine a

difference very considerably in favour of the machine when covered. Thus, at

the speed of seventy-two revolutions, the force absorbed by the fan without

the cover has been 31 "06 H.P., whilst, at the same speed and with the

cover, it has not required more than 21 ^I H.P.; the difference 9*72 is

doubtless employed in moving' the surrounding air, to create the eddies

which are, under these circumstances, great, it is true, but which they

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round those which are not suitably covered. To compare the result of the two

arrangements at other speeds, it is necessary to have recourse to the line

of curve, similar to those which I have shown; we then see the differences

in a manner very clear and decided. I should have remarked that the

ventilator when covered had absorbed still less work in those experiments

when we made use of the slide to close totally the orifice of outlet, for

then the resistance had been reduced to the friction of the machinery and to

that of the air in the fan, in the absence of the slide permitting the

extreme air which has access by the fourth of the circumference to form

eddies.
The trial of the fan working- from the mine has been recorded without the

cover, with the cover, with cover and chimney (but without the slide), and

at last with cover, chimney, and slide regulated.
Unfortunately, as we found great difficulty in reproducing exactly the same

speed, the elements for direct comparison fail. The curve line is,

therefore, here an absolute necessity. However, in bringing together the

experiments made at extreme speeds, we are able to draw up the following

table:—
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The influence of the slide on the useful effect would have been better seen

if the requirement of the mine had been less near to that for which the

ventilator had been proportioned (63,558 c. f. of air per min. under the

depression of 3*14 inches). The results consequent on this arrangement are

as follows:—1st. The cover is useless below a certain speed -(fifty-two

revolutions for the machine which we have in hands as well as that, the

results of which are traced in the curve), and becomes so much the more

advantageous as the speed is increased up to a certain limit, about

seventy-five revolutions, where the benefit appears to remain
constant.
2nd. The action of the chimney makes itself felt at all speeds, but its

effects are so much the more decided as the speed increases.
3rd. The slide, suitably regulated, increases the useful effect of the fan.

The experiments Nos. 43 and 44, which have been arranged at the same speed

(68 revolutions), prove that the useful effect is raised in the proportion

of 1*064 to 1, since it has reduced the work done, for the same result

obtained, from 21*38 horse-power to 20*10 horse-power.
The general conclusion, resulting from all these facts, is, that the fan

uncovered is a very bad machine. That the cover badly arranged can be more

useless than useful. That the chimney affords incontestably the greater part

of the benefit obtained in the new arrangements. And that the sliding

shutter, which completes the arrangement in allowing of the adjusting of the

machine according to the requirements of the mine upon which it is

established, furnishes the means for obtaining, under all these

circumstances, the highest useful effect.
In what precedes I have shown, at different occasions, the line of curves as

a means by which all the results which the experiments afford are rendered

intelligible. I conclude by placing before you a table of these curves, the

one relative to the depressions, the other to the work. (See Plate II.) I

think the accompanying explanation will enable you completely to understand

the indications. You will find easily, for any speed whatever, according to

the depressions, what would be the corresponding work of the fan without the

cover, covered with the chimney, and lastly, covered with chimney and slide

regulated. Take, for example, the speed of 75 revolutions. The perpendicular

to the scale of speeds shows the point on this scale which corresponds to

this speed (on the curves of depression) in cutting the curve A at the point

a, shows that at this speed the depression produced, by the machine

complete, would be 2*40 inches. The meeting of curve B at b shows that the

fan without the cover does not give more than 1*90 inches. We see, in the

same way,
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that the machine covered without a slide, and without a chimney, would not

give more than 1*70 inches of depression.
In the same manner, the perpendicular to the scale of speeds on the curves

of work raised to point 75, indicates, by its intersection with the

different curves, the work required to be done by the machine, which

corresponds to that working- in the mine of Picquery. Thus, the machine,

without the cover, absorbs 42 horse-power; provided with the cover, but

without the chimney and slide, it does not require more than 37; with cover

and chimney, it does not require more than 31; and complete, that is to say,

with the cover, the chimney, and the slide, from 26 to 27 horse-power is

sufficient to move it.
If you remark, that the least force spent corresponds exactly with the

greatest depression obtained, and, in consequence, the overflow of the

greater volume of air, you understand how the useful effect of the new

ventilator is superior to that which was furnished by the old one, applied

to produce the same current in the same mine.
Although the hour at which we g-enerally break up our seances has already

passed, permit me, before we separate, to call your attention to two orders

of facts, very interesting, and inseparable from those which precede.
It is, in the first place, the manifestation of the action of the chimney,

rendered visible by the vacuum which is produced at its base.
This vacuum has been measured by MM. Gille and Franeau, by placing-a

water-gauge in the partition of the chimney, opposite to the slide at three

different heights. Six observations were taken while the fan was making 72

revolutions, and producing a depression in the air measured by a water

column of 2*28 inches. The result which they have furnished are recorded in

the Nos. 48 to 53 of the general tables.
The circumstances in which the current of air is placed in the chimney

authorises us to take, for the effective depression, the least depression

which there has been on the face of the opening of the slide, from 1*35

inches at 11*81 inches higher, of T04 inches; and at 19*68 inches higher

ag-ain of 0*70 inches.
The rapid decrease of vacuum in the middle of the chimney, measured at the

increased section, is the confirmation of the principle which has prompted

the adoption of this important addition; and the greatest value of this

vacuum, which in the experiment is 1*35 inches, proves how much the machine

is found advantageous when, without the chimney, there was to overcome a

pressure of 1*85 inches greater to force . into the atmosphere the air which

it drew from the mine. In other
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terms, it is evident that, if the chimney did not exist, the depression or

vacuum in the air-chamber would be reduced from 2*28 inches to 092 inches,

an abstraction to be added to the resistances of the air in the ventilator.

The principal character of the machine is proved when placed in the same

light by the experiments on the vacuum produced at the base of the chimney.

And it appears to me impossible that any person can be mistaken hereafter.

The last result of observations made on the ventilator of Crachet and

Picquery which I have to communicate to you is relating to the considerable

volume of air which this kind of machine can displace. In the preceding

experiments we operated at the mine in such a manner that the volume of air,

displaced at the different depressions obtained, depends on the conditions

of the work which it was obliged to perform, not having surpassed in these

conditions 50,328 cubic feet per minute (experiments 39 and 47). By opening-

a small trap-door to the day the volumes of 44,100 cubic feet and 62,432

cubic feet were obtained; but these volumes were very far from representing-

that which one would have obtained if the access had been made easier. In

order to come to a definite result on this subject an experiment was made,

on the 6th August, by MM. Raux and Frauquet, in the presence of M. Stoesser

and other persons, in which as many communications as possible were opened

between the down-cast pit and that of extraction (up-cast shaft), and also

between the surface and the air-chamber. The ventilator, when the slide had

been entirely raised, was going- at the speed of 87 revolutions. The

depression in the air-chamber was 1-99 inches, and the volume of the current

was found 175,620 cubic feet per minute. The experimenters had great

difficulty in remaining- in the current when the speed of the air coming

from the mine was 24*92 feet, and 139-95 feet for the air taken directly at

the surface. When the ventilator was g'oing-at this speed it was found

impossible to pass the trap-door of communication with the interior. A man

would most certainly have been knocked down.
In this experiment no measure was taken of the work given off. With respect

to the work taken in moving- the air, it was seen that it was raised to

1,860,540 pounds per minute, or 56*38 horse-power.
Plate I. is a Plan and Section of the Ventilator. „ II. is a Diagram

giving Eesults at different Speeds. „ III. is the Indicator Diagrams.
NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEERS.
GENERAL MEETING, SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 3, 186G, IN THE ROOMS
OF THE INSTITUTE, NEVILLE HALL, WESTGATE STREET,
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
JOHN TAYLOR, Esq., Vice-President op the Institute, in the Chair.
The Secretary read the minutes of the Council meeting's, after which the

following- new members were elected, viz.:—Mr. James Turn-bull, Gateshead;

Mr. Jos. Catran, Wylam Colliery; Mr. J. M. Ogden, Sunderland j Mr. John

Yardley, Burnt Tree, Tipton; Mr. W. Y. Craig, Harecastle Colliery,

Stoke-upon-Trent; Mr. Thomas Brettell, Mine Agent, Dudley; Mr. John J.

Bryden, Hematite Iron Works, Whitehaven.
A letter was read from Mr. W. Cochrane on the duties of the Secretary, and a

committee was appointed to take the subject into consideration.
CALOW'S SAFETY-CAGE.
Mr. Marley's paper on Calow's Safety-cage came on for discussion.
Mr. Marley said, that by permission of the Council, Mr. Calow was in the

room, and he would be glad to illustrate the paper further than he (Mr. M.)

was able to do at the Manchester meeting, by exhibiting a model of his

safety-cage. He would only now bring forward the points which might require

fuller consideration with regard to safety-cages generally, and to this one

in particular. He would touch on a few par-
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ticulars, which might be said to be prominent points, and more especially as

they would hear another paper read to day on another patentee's safety-cage.

He might premise that he had no interest whatever in connection with this

or any other safety-cage, beyond what he had already stated at Manchester,

and that was to lessen the danger to which their own and their workmen's

lives were exposed whenever they went up or down a coal or other mine.

The object of his paper would be lost, unless Mr. Dickinson, or some other

gentleman, would give statistics as to how long the various apparatuses had

been used. Calow's was the best safety-cage he (Mr. M.) had seen, and he

wished to have the matter fully discussed. Mr. Calow wrote him a long

letter on the subject, a few days ago, in connection with this paper.

Although he had not much that was new to add since he read the paper in

July, 1865, there was this additional advantage, that since that time he had

had the cage constantly at work at Shildon Lodge Colliery, and at Eston

Mines, in Cleveland; also, for a few weeks, at Byers Green Colliery; and

during that time these cages had continued to give satisfaction, requiring

no repairs, or next to none, and showing, by their continued use, that they

were equal to the general objects proposed by the use of safety-cages.

When the cage was applied to wood guides, its constant use caused no great

expense for repairs, and it had not yet been practically tried on wire or

iron rods. One advantage of Calow's cage was the simplicity of the machinery

connected with it. They were all aware that it was not connected with the

rope, and hence it did not come into play when the cage came to bank, nor at

the bottom, but only when required, with actually broken or dissevered

ropes, following the natural law of gravitation. The present patent is

dated March 10th, 1866. Another point to which Mr. Calow wished to have

their attention specially called was one of the objections about g-reat

speed. He would read a short part of Mr. Calow's letter:—
"The one chief objection to my safety-cages now is, if I mistake not, the

great speed some of the winding-engines travel at in modern collieries. I

beg to say that this has been an item whereon I have spent much time and

thought. I do know that from the construction of certain safety-cages, they

are, as it were, hung in springs, so that, at the time when the engineman

cuts off or reverses his engine, it has a very great tendency to bring the

grips into play, thereby doing serious mischief ; and I know parties who

will not run the risk of trying them on that account. Well, but in my case,

I have a method whereby I can test the effect of the cutting off of the

steam or reversing the engine would have upon the apparatus, without the

apparatus being on, so that the risk is done away."
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Mr. Calow has a method by which he tries the effect of cutting off the

steam, and to meet the greater speed at which the engine was likely to run.

Thus—
" I simply fix in a box a spring of a given length and strength, such a one

as would be suitable for the cage tried on. I would subject the spring to a

certain pressure—say fifty per cent, more than necessary to shut it. Above

the spring I would place, say a bit of straw, or anything that the spring

through the action (if any) of the cutting off the steam, etc., would easily

displace ; therefore, it would at once show the effect of the speed being

checked, etc. This would be proved without the grips being attached to the

spring, thereby no risk whatever would arise as in other cases ; but to

obviate this effect, I could overcome that by putting on extra weight and

fixing the grips further from the guides. This I have ascertained by actual

experiments, extending over four years, and it is a fact I shall wish the

meeting to be specially acquainted with."
The principal thing which Mr. Calow claims as an advantage for this

invention is the apparatus not being connected with the rope as in other

cages :—
" There is, amongst others, another thing in its favour. The old system

being connected to the rope, thereby getting the motion from the rope, has a

great difficulty to overcome, and one which has not been lost sight of

before now, viz.:— When a cage is some 300 or 400 yards down a shaft, and

the rope breaks near the drum, and the drum is a considerable distance from

the pulley, those springs have actually to drag all tliat rope quicker than

the cage falls, in order for the grips to get hold of the guides. Cases have

been known where the great amount of rope has prevented them from acting;

besides, they must have only one strength of spring to effect it, for if the

spring be too strong, the cage could not shut it sufficiently when the rope

got the weight, so that the grips would not be clear of the slides; but, in

mine, the spring is immediately at liberty to act on the instant of the

breakage, without being trammelled by the tail or broken rope above.

Besides, I am not confined to the strength of spring, it is only increasing

the pressure upon it, which pressure is as nothing in time of accident.

Again, some have made objections that if the apparatus were required to be

brought into play in case of rapid descent, or if the rope broke when the

engine was at full descending speed (a case of very great rarity), it would

do as much damage as letting it go to the bottom. This I can deny with

regard to my mode of grips, they being so constructed (curved wedges) that

if they are required to act as stated, they will not stop the cage

instantly, but arrest its downward tendency gradually or by degrees

according to the speed at which the cage was travelling at the time of

accident, but in case of ascending it would arrest the cage on the instant.

This has been proved practically. Since the discussion on my safety-cages,

which took place at Manchester last year, I have been very much interested

in reading a copy or report of the discussion, from which I gather how

little is known of the nature of it, which is a source of encouragement to

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known, it will be more appreciated. I hope the models will be easily

understood. I have made them myself, and have been anxious that they should

show the principle of my invention, because no one will have faith in a

thing they know nothing of ; and although I have shown two ways of applying

it, I do not confine myself to them, but to the principle of action, viz.,

gravitation. At the Manchester meeting, a question was asked whether it

would act on wire guides 1 Since then I have made a model to act, not on

wire guides (which are twisted, therefore producing an uneven surface to the

advantage of the apparatus), but to act on a smooth iron rod, and without

even serrating the surface of the grips employed. What more may be required

I know not. I am not aware, and my experience has extended over a series of

years, that any other objection has been raised, but I am prepared to meet

it if any should arise. I have it upon the best authority that the principle

cannot be beaten, and as regards the machinery employed for wood guides,

there is none so simple, and none that has run half the time without

requiring expensive repairs."
In Calow's cage you will see the spring* is in a condition to act without

being- trammelled by the tail or broken rope. Again, some had made

objections that if brought into play in case of rapid descent, it would do

as much damage as letting" it go to the bottom. This had been found by

experience not to be the case. They would have an opportunity of putting-

any questions they pleased to Mr. Calow, and, by leave of the Chairman, he

would be allowed to answer them.
Mr. Calow said, this was the most simple method that he knew of applying"

safety apparatus. The first time he took out a patent (in 1859) it had its

motion from the rope; and all other safety-cag"es had, he believed, except

the present one. Indeed, if there was another like this in that respect, it

was unknown to him. In this cag-e the motion was g-ot by the law of

gravitation, and he had never known it to fail. The great defect in other

safety-cag"es was, that the instant they were let down to the bottom, the

apparatus was set at liberty, and there was unnecessary wear and tear of the

machinery employed. In this case it never worked unless it became a falling

body.
The Chairman (to Mr. Marley)—Have you ever had a broken rope ?
Mr. Marley said, the engineman, in two cases, had drawn the cage over the

pulleys. Thus there were two cases in which the apparatus was brought into

play through the detaching hook; one was with a full tub, and another with

an empty tub. They were not testing for amusement, and the apparatus acted

perfectly in both
Mr. Calow—The instant the rope breaks it is perfectly at liberty to act.
Mr. J. B. Simpson—How far would the cage fall in the event of the rope

breaking ?
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Mr. Calow—Ten inches.
Mr. Marley said, it varied from seven to fourteen inches. You can set the

apparatus and adjust it so as to give it a certain time to fall. The actual

fall, in one of the cases mentioned, measured off ten inches. Mr. Watkin,

who was in charge of the colliery, stated that the guides were very little

damaged, and the work was resumed thirty minutes after the accident. Mr.

Higson, at the Manchester meeting, asked if it could be used with round wire

ropes (see Keport of Manchester meeting, Vol. XV., page 111). He (Mr.

Marley) used the ordinary wooden slides, but the models now show it can be

used with wire-rope.
Mr. Calow—In other cages you must get hold of the rope to set the grips at

liberty.
Mr. Marley—Mr. Dickinson said one of the good things of a safety-cage was,

that it was connected with the rope, and so came into play at top and bottom

of the shaft. Mr. Dickinson and myself joined issue upon that point. The

advantage of this safety-cage is, that it is not connected with the rope.

I have not tried it with wire-rope slides.
Mr. Calow, in answer to questions asked, said, the grips are so arranged

that no damage is done to the slide. There are no serrated edges. It is

merely a chain or chains acting on the eccentric. There is no connection

between the rope and the mechanism.
Mr. Simpson inquired if there was no danger of the cage catching with a

great velocity ? Suppose a case where the usual velocity of the cage was at

the rate of ten feet per second, would there be any fear oi the cage being

stopped should the engineman inadvertently increase this velocity ?
Mr. Marley explained that by properly adjusting the weight they might

maintain any rate of speed that might be required.
Mr. Easton—You will have to calculate the exact weig'ht due to your

momentum. If you make it a little too light it will not act. Make it a

little too heavy and if the engineman suddenly increases the speed it will

be sure to stop.
Mr. Calow—The first principle is simply this, namely, no matter what the

momentum may be when the weight required is fixed on the spring, action can

only take place when the cage gravitates.
Mr. Steavenson said, the only limit was, they must have a surplus of weight.

If they could run to the speed of a falling* weight then it must stop.

All that they had to see was that they had more weight than
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they wanted. In the Exhibition of 1862, Mr. Calow's safety-cage was the only

one he (Mr. S.) thought worthy of attention.
Mr. Coxon inquired what was the weight of the whole machinery at Shildon

Lodge ?
Mr. Marley said, the large tubs of coals, cage, and apparatus weighed one

ton nineteen cwts.
The Chairman asked if there had ever been an instance where it acted

improperly, or acted when they did not wish it to act ?
Mr. Marley said, for the first six months from their putting it down at

Shildon, there were several instances where it acted improperly, but they

found they had not got the proper weight upon it. This was also the case at

Byers' Green. They put the necessary additional weight on, and since that

time, not by any checks whatever, had they the slightest motion.
Mr. Calow said, the weight of the machinery was about 112 lbs.
Mr. Easton asked if it bore any ratio to the whole weight of the coals ?
Mr. Marley said, he could not give the weight of the apparatus separately

without reference. They had had it three years in use and it had not cost

them 5s. for repairs.
Mr. Easton said, that a cage moving five or six feet per second, every part

was more or less shaken on striking the bottom of the pit-shaft; and the

more weight they added to the cage, the more complicated it was, and the

greater the difficulty of keeping it in working condition.
Mr. Marley—This is just the advantage. It does not grip every time it comes

to the top and bottom.
Mr. Easton—From the constant beating of the cage at the bottom of the pit

there must be a difficulty of keeping it in working condition.
Mr. Marley said, in answer, that he had only to repeat what he had just now

said, that they had had it in use three years; and they were drawing two

tubs, with eleven cwts. of coals in each tub. At Eston Mines, in Cleveland,

they were drawing a ton and a-half of ironstone each time.
Mr. Daglish said, the large and long cages, now in use carrying four tubs,

get very much damaged themselves, without reference to any particular mode

of mechanism.
Mr. G. B. Forster—The working load in some of our shafts is six tons without

the rope.
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Mr. Marley said, at Shildon Lodge they were drawing two tubs weighing from

six to six and a-half cwts., with ten to eleven cwts. of coal in each tub,

with a cag'e in proportion. These large cages had been in use twelve months,

and they had not found any difficulty. In Cleveland they drew ironstone in

large wagons, each containing one and a-half tons of ironstone. The wagons

were made of iron, and weighed from fifteen to eighteen cwts.
Mr. Easton said, if they had a velocity of five or six feet per second, when

they arrived at the bottom there was a blow given which would be heavier in

proportion to the weight of the cage. He did not see how they could obviate

this, and if they added to the parts they increased the liability to

derangement.
Mr. Marley—On the same principle a double cage would require double the

amount of repair ?
Mr. Daglish—A much greater proportion than that.
The Chairman—Can your principle be applied to iron slides 1
Mr. Calow said yes, this is an iron slide (referring to the model). There

are no teeth whatever, so that it can do no possible injury. Mr. Calow

exhibited a spring and said, that was the spring which had been at work at

Shildon Lodge two and a-half years. There was a great deal of elasticity in

it yet, and it would wear much longer.
Mr. Calow said, he had drawn up a rough paper to show how it could be

applied at quick winding collieries without the grips.
" Staveley, November 2nd, 1866.
" Gentlemen,—I beg to forward a rough sketch (Plate IV.), of an apparatus

for trying the effect of rapid descent, or any sudden reverse of the engine,

etc., produced upon Calow's system of safety-cage. The apparatus is arranged

so as to be experimented upon at any colliery, regardless of speed, without

running the least risk, as the gripping machinery is removed and a weight

used as an equivalent. Explanation: a a is a box with front removed,

containing the simple apparatus employed; b is a foundation fixed in the box

and made secure to the sides a a. Upon the foundation is fixed a spring such

as might be employed for the cage tried upon ; the spring is weighted

according to a fixed rule established by the patentee. The weight may be

fixed on the top of, or suspended underneath, the spring, as shown at c c ;

if the former, the weight at the top would require to work in a slide or

slides as shown at d d. If the engine proves to have too much power over the

spring, it will be shown by the removal of the straw or any similar

material, as shown at the top of the weight (see straw e). This being the

case, an extra weight must be used until the proper weight required be

ascertained. To prove this, I would recommend that the box be fixed on the

top of the cage, and made secure thereto, and the door of the box locked up,

and allow it to remain in that
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position for one month. The utility of this arrangement will be clear to

all. It does away with all risk as to whether the apparatus, if applied,

would grip through any sudden reverse of the engine, a doubt which so many

entertain. .
" I remain, gentlemen,
" Yours respectfully,
"J. T. CALOW."
LEMIELLE'S VENTILATOR.
The model of a Ventilating- Fan, by M. Lemielle, was exhibited, and its

working explained by Mr. Marshall and Mr. Ellis Lever, of Manchester.
Mr. Cochrane remarked, that there was a paper on M. Lemielle's ventilating*

fan in the Transactions of the Institute (Vol. VI., p. 130), and it seemed

to him that this was exactly the same machine.
Mr. Lever said, two or three improvements had been made in it since it was

introduced six or seven years ago.
Mr. Steavenson said, it gave eight inches of water-gauge, whilst Guibal's

gave only four or five inches at the outside.
The Chairman suggested that Mr. Lever or Mr. Marshall should read a paper

upon it.
Mr. Lever said, he thought Mr. Higson, of Manchester, would write a paper on

this machine.
HARRISON'S CAST-IRON BOILER.
Mr. Cochrane read a paper on " Harrison's Cast-iron Boiler."
Mr. Willis inquired if there were any tables as to the time spent in getting

steam, the coals used, and water evaporated. He had had some experiments

with cast-iron boilers, and he would be glad to put them together, and

compare them with Mr. Cochrane's. There was a remark in one of the papers

that these boilers leaked considerably.
Mr. Cochrane understood they were successful as regarded leakages.
Mr. Willis said, notwithstanding the success that was said to have attended

them in America, a statement had appeared in a work entitled " Engineering "

that the Editor had received a letter from that country in which it was

reported that " they leaked considerably."
Mr. Cochrane said, he had broken his up, and put them into the cupola. He

had given them a fair trial.
Mr. Marley sug-gested that Mr. Willis should favour the Institute with his

experiments at the adjourned discussion.
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BROADBENT'S SAFETY-CAGE.
Mr. Daglish read a paper on " Broadbent's Patent Safety-Cage." He said, the

gentleman was present to whom the invention belonged, and, perhaps, they

would allow him to exhibit it to the members. There are no spring's attached

to the apparatus. It is similar to others in being attached to the rope, but

dissimilar, inasmuch as the weight of the catches themselves throws it into

gear.
Mr. Nelson Smith, the exhibitor, produced a model of the invention. He said,

the first action was not dependent on a spring, but they attached spring-s

as accelerators. There was no fall whatever; but even without the springs it

would stop. The eccentrics were chained back behind it. It would run as fast

as they pleased, and when the rope snapped it would stop.
Mr. Marley—What is the difference between yours and Owen's ?
Mr. Smith—In Owen's the first action is dependent on the spring*, but our

first action is not dependent on a spring. We put springs in as

accelerators, and there is no necessity for heavy weights.
Mr. Marley said, suppose the engine should give jerks, or suppose it went at

extraordinary speed, what provision was there to prevent its coming- into

play when it should not ?
Mr. Smith said, it was working very satisfactorily at Kirkless Pit.
The Chairman inquired if any accident had occurred with it in use ?
Mr. Smith said, it had not caused any accident; no accident had been r<

ported.
Mr. Daglish—Has it ever been in use when a rope has been broken ?
Mr. Smith—No; except as an experiment.
Mr. G. B. Forster—If there was a weight of six tons, do you not think it

would cut the g-uide in two ?
Mr. Smith—We assume it would not, because of the broad surface.
Mr. Marley—What is the weight of the apparatus alone ?
Mr. Smith—A plan such as this would be one cwt.
Mr. Willis—You say on account of the width of the slide, but in most pits

you have not a slide of great width.
Mr. Smith—We only require two and a quarter inches ; and in the slides where

the experiments have been tried, the mark is hardly perceptible.
Mr. G. B. Forster—You have not tried it with very great weights ?
Mr. Smith —It was shown to Mr. Lancaster. At some of the Wigan collieries

they have great weig-hts.
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Mr. Marlby said; the objection he had in connection with this was, the

constant coming" into play, and knocking" the slides to pieces at the top

and bottom, and being* connected with the rope.
Mr. Smith said, if thej consulted the Wig*an Colliery owners, they would

find the wear and tear was less than with Owen's, or White and Grant's.
Mr. Smith also exhibited machines for calculating" workmen's wagfes.
At the close of the discussion, votes of thanks were accorded to the

gentlemen who had exhibited the various machines, and the Secretary was

instructed to communicate these votes to the parties concerned.
ON
BKOADBENT'S PATENT SAFETY-CAGE.
By JOHN DAGLISH, F.G.S.
I have been requested to draw your attention to an invention recently

patented by Mr. Jubal C. Broadbent, of Rochdale, Lancashire, which was

recently brought under my notice by his agent, Mr. Nelson Smith, of the firm

of Ashwood, Smith, and Co., Manchester. It is stated to have stood,

successfully, several tests on both wood and wire rope conductors at several

large collieries.
I understand that the Wigan Coal and Iron Company were the first to adopt

it, on the wire rope conductors and then on wood, at the California Pits,

where, previously, an accident had occurred in September last year, when

seven men were killed by the breakage of a nearly new wire-rope. It is not

my intention to commend or recommend the use of this or any other apparatus,

or do more than draw your attention to it.
Plate V., fig. 1, represents a cage of ordinary construction, with safety

apparatus attached immediately under the rim or top, and held out of action

by the tension of the winding rope, as when the cage is at work ascending or

descending.
At A are represented the weighted eccentrics or tumblers, supported and

working on studs or fulcra rivetted to plates B, and held up by the small

chains C, which are attached to the ordinary winding chains of the cage. D

is a spiral or vulcanised rubber spring tie, which (though not essential to

the working of the apparatus), may, at discretion, be fixed at the back of

the eccentrics so as to quicken their action, thereby preventing the cage

attaining the least possible momentum in case of accident. E is the

conductor, which may be of wood or wire-rope.
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actions being unsupported fall on their fulcra, the serrated surface of the

eccentrics being- thus brought in contact with the conductors have their

larger radii run in until the cage is gently but inevitably arrested. This

is accomplished without occasioning- the slightest damage to the conductors

by reason of the large surface brought to bear the resistance,
ON HARRISON'S
CAST-IKON STEAM BOILEE.
By WILLIAM COCHRANE.
In May, 1864, a paper on this subject was read before the Society of

Mechanical Engineers, at Birmingham. The results were stated to be entirely

satisfactory, and the system was in operation at Messrs. Hetherington's of

Manchester, and elsewhere, so that, after a careful examination of the

boilers at Messrs. Hetherington's, and the fullest inquiry that could be

made, there seemed every inducement for its adoption in preference to the

ordinary wrought-iron boiler. A plant was, therefore, erected at the Elswick

Colliery to thoroughly test the system with the view of extending- its use.

It has proved, in my opinion, a failure; but with some variations may

probably still be made useful; and it is with this object that I bring- the

subject before this Society, so that the difficulties so far as experienced

may be known, and perhaps remedies applied j for the adoption of cast-iron,

in some such form as this system, promises very great advantages. The

description of the plant at Elswick is as follows :—
Two boilers were fixed along-side of each other, each composed of six slabs,

enclosed and covered in with brickwork, as shown on the accompanying-

drawing- (Plate VI.), built up of cast-iron spheres fitted tog-ether

accurately with faced joints, these spheres being- threaded on wroug-ht-iron

bolts, one inch-and-a-quarter diameter, which are furnished with screw nuts

at each end, so that the joints of each string of g-lobes can be well

tightened; suitable caps close the top and bottom of each line of spheres,

and the joint is formed as shown at A, B, metal to metal. The whole slab is

composed of castings similar to those detailed on the plan, which shows

sufficiently the mode of fixing them together. The spheres have an external

diameter of eight inches and are three-eighths thick, being connected by

passages of three inches and one-eighth internal diameter; each sphere

weighs about twenty-two-and-a-half pounds, so there are about 100 to the ton

: its contents are about seven pints; the external surface about

one-and-a-quarter square feet, and internal about one-and-one-eighth square

feet. Experiments had shown that each ton of slabs represented about three
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horse-power, so that in the comparison of weight to power it was about on a

par with the ordinary internal-flued Lancashire wrought-iron boiler.
The strength of these spheres had been carefully tested, and as might be

expected from their spherical shape, afforded most satisfactory results;

indeed this was one of the chief recommendations of the system that under

enormous pressure there would be no bursting of the spheres. The metal was

selected, and the manufacture was very carefully carried out, so as to

secure uniform thickness and accurately similar castings. The spheres did

not burst at a pressure of 1200 lbs. to the square inch : the bursting

pressure, indeed, could not be exactly ascertained in consequence, at these

high pressures, of imperfect gauges, but it was considered to be about 1500

lbs. per square inch. In these experiments a sphere was closed with the caps

and a bolt nine inches long. In the case of a slab where the bolt is nine

feet long, the expansion of this length at a much lower pressure than

above-mentioned would cause all the joints of the spheres to open, and thus

avoid violent explosion. The risk of injury from violent explosion is

therefore entirely removed.
The drawing (Plate VII.) shows the manner in which each slab is built up.

One, two, and four globes being cast in one piece in order to get cross

joints and thus build the slab firmly; the top and bottom of one of each

pair of slabs, when fixed in place, consisting of a single sphere, S and W.

On each terminal sphere a cap is accurately fitted as a washer plate,

against which the nut is screwed (a sample one is shown), and to each

alternate top and bottom single sphere a wrought-iron quarter bend is fixed

for steam and water connection respectively; such quarter bend is connected

with the straight steam-pipe at the top, and the water feed at the bottom,

as shown in the drawing at S and W: these bends provide for expansion.
The system of water supply was a GifTard's Injector. Six slabs placed side

by side, in the form of three pairs, formed a boiler; a cast-iron chair C,

built in the fire-brick bridge, supporting each slab along one of the lower

lines of spheres; the upper line of spheres at F resting on a suitable

fire-brick arch over the fire-door; the general angle of the slabs being

about forty-five degrees, which is provided for the emptying of the spheres

when the water is blown off.
A T-shaped casting is run horizontally in the line T from front to back

between the slabs to prevent the flame playing on the steam space, which

consists of about one-third the number of spheres in each slab, and

therefore two-thirds would be water space. The steam-filled slabs are thus

in a highly heated chamber, and the steam should be, consequently, well

dried.
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The cost of each boiler, iron work and all fittings complete, as shown on

the drawing-, was £135, including- patent right; the total weight about six

and a-half tons; the cost of fixing and of masonry, including proportion of

chimney, was £67; the area of ground covered by each boiler, with flues, is

about 280 square feet.
The two boilers were set to work 24th May, 1865, and were used to drive an

underground engine.
The raising of steam was very rapid; in half-an-hour from commencing to

light the fires on a Monday morning, with cold water in the boiler, steam

was raised to thirty pounds pressure; and when the boilers were new, each

yielded as much steam as a thirty-feet by five-feet-diameter ordinary

wrought-iron boiler; the working pressure being about forty pounds; the

consumption of coal was less for the production of the same amount of steam

in twelve hours; for the egg-ended boilers as then fired consumed 1*45 tons

of coals in twelve hours, the cast-iron boiler only T25 tons. The Harrison

boiler, though stated to be smoke-consuming in its arrangement, was very far

from it, and this was very objectionable in its steam-producing power in

consequence of priming-; it would almost appear on examination of the

passages between the spheres that their small sectional areas are peculiarly

favourable to this evil, and constitute a difficulty to overcome. To the

same cause as that of the priming, namely, the small horizontal areas of

water surface, may also, I think, be attributed the violent fluctuations of

the water-gauge, which took place. A very long gauge was used, and it was

connected as shown at G. The level oscillated when the engine was at work as

far as six inches, and very rapidly, from which fact may be probably deduced

the cause of the next serious defect which was experienced, and which led to

the rejection of the boilers, namely, the splitting of the spheres. When the

before-mentioned paper was read at Birmingham, it was stated that " no

instance of a fracture has occurred in the cast-iron boilers with the

present setting (the writer refers to a previous system of setting having

brought an injurious strain on the joints), and all the boilers of this kind

yet erected are quite free from leaks at the joints." This writer's

experience extends over " several years in America, and for upwards of two

years in London and Manchester."
When Messrs. Hetherington were consulted for the Elswick plant, this

statement no longer held true; for split spheres had occurred in some of the

boilers at work in England. It is quite conceivable that by some wiredrawn

action through the narrow passages, the sudden with-
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drawal of steam may exhaust one slab more largely than another, and thus

lift the water entirely away from spheres at a level below the line T, thus

exposing a sphere deprived of water to the fire. Messrs. Hetherington

considered the split globes they had seen were the result of overheating ;

the same remark does not apply to the cases which will be referred to

directly, although in breaking the spheres some front ones on which the fire

impinged were found burnt, and among the pieces on the table will be found

such a section. At their suggestion, therefore, as each pair of slabs had

only one steam connection, as seen on the drawing, three-and-one-eighth

inches diameter, the upper caps of aline of spheres at P were replaced by

caps with joints for one-and-a-half inch wrought-iron pipe, and a connection

made across the steam space of the six slabs, with the object of equalising

the pressure and supply of steam in each slab.
On the 25th September, 1865, there was a split globe on the third row above

the bridge and fronting.the fire; it occurred at 12'40 p.m., while the

engine was running; the fire was put out by the large body of water

discharged; the fireman only heard a slight crack when it happened. The

boiler had to be stripped of its brickwork, the slab disconnected and lifted

out, and a new casting of two globes (which was the one broken) put in. No

leakage took place at the new joints nor at any of the old ones.
On the 17th November, 1865, another globe split in the second row above the

fire, and similar work as in the first instance was necessary. On the 1st

February, 1866, a joint leaked, and was readily tightened up by the screw

bolts. On the 8th and 9th February, 1866, there were split globes in each

boiler, and both were laid off. During this time there had often been

occasion to screw up some particular line of bolts, to take off leaking

joints, and in one case a bolt so tightened broke; but practically this was

not a very serious objection, the boiler being laid off every night gave

facility for this work.
In the first case, on examination of the globe, the internal surface was

found coated with an incrustation about one-sixteenth of an inch thick. This

should not have been; for the patentee claims, as one of the advantages of

his system that, if the boiler be blown out at the end of each week the

scales of incrustation become detached in the process of cooling, and are

discharged with the water. Though the instructions for sludging and blowing

out were strictly attended to, the desired result was not obtained, as can

be perceived by examination of the spheres in the room, of which No. 1 was

in the row similarly marked in the drawing
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(Plate VII.), that is, three of its globes were in the steam space, and the

fourth one in the water space. [No. 1 is a four-ball casting, having a

uniformly thick and hard deposit over all the interior surface of about

one-sixteenth of an inch, and shows no signs of the action of splitting it

off; the water sphere has a thicker deposit than the three steam spaces.]
No. 2, also situated as shown in the drawing, was fully exposed to the fire,

and in the locality where the split globes occurred. [No. 2 is a two-ball,

having* on the side exposed to the fire a deposit filling up half the

cubical contents of the sphere, which appears to have been formed by the

breaking off of pieces of incrustation from other spheres, which have

settled here and become solidified. The remainder of the interior surface

has a deposit of about one-eighth of an inch thick.]
No. 3 situated below the bridge. [No. 3, is a two-ball, and the particular

casting which connects a pair of slabs for the water-feed, having a deposit

on the interior surface of one-sixteenth of an inch thick, and in the front

part of the globe which first receives the water a very abundant though soft

deposit nearly half filling the sphere; the deposit in the other sphere is

very hard and of the average thickness, and shows no signs of any removing

action.
All have been in use from May, 1865, to February, 1866.
These globes are fair average samples of the condition of the boiler, as a

careful examination was made when the boiler was taken to pieces. An

incrustation, therefore, over all the interior, even in the steam space

spheres, of about one-eighth of an inch, can be fairly stated as an average,

while in the globes, immediately above the bridge, it is as far as three

inches thick, in some cases filling almost half the space of the sphere, and

offering, therefore, sufficient explanation of the splitting of such globes

as well as of the loss of power in the boiler.
Many spheres have been broken after taking the boiler to pieces in order to

examine the condition of the metal, which is of a clear grey colour

throughout, and shows no signs of burning, except in two cases; those burnt

were in the front row immediately exposed to the fire, and have already been

referred to. The upper sphere of all, marked S, was found to contain a soft

light brown deposit of uniform thickness of three sixteenths of an inch,

evidently carried there by the priming of the water.
The water used yields with the ordinar}?- wrought-iron boiler a similar

scale of about one-thirty-second of an inch in thickness in a month, which

is removed on each occasion of cleaning. There is also exhibited a split

sphere, No. 4. The examination of the first split sphere showed
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no signs of deterioration in the metal, either by corrosion or burning-; the

average incrustation of one-eighth is seen in this case also, and does not

appear sufficient to account for the globe splitting.
The expense in labour alone of replacing a split sphere in such a part of

the boiler is very great (and each one occurred just above the bridge in the

set fronting the fire), without saying anything of the serious inconvenience

of having a boiler suddenly laid off. It was felt to be so serious that it

was deemed advisable not to continue the experiment, but to substitute the

ordinary wrought-iron boilers, worked with Juckes' firebars, which was done.

Other reasons weighed, namely, the quantity of steam raised had at this time

considerably diminished, and the consumption of coals increased. This was, I

think, subsequently fully accounted for, if not already explained by the

incrustation; as on removing the masonry all the open spaces, 0, between the

spheres were found to retain a large deposit of soot and dust, which

increased as the spaces receded from the fire, and behind the bridge, where

there was a kind of baffler plate to keep the current of flame in the middle

of the boiler, the spheres were quite buried in dust. Some of these spaces

about the line of the T-casting were completely filled, and a semi-fusion of

the accumulated mass had taken place. Large accumulations had been often

removed from the main back flues, but it would not be easy to remove the

deposits above-mentioned, and no doubt they would interfere greatly with the

regularity of heating and with the economy of fuel.
The trial of the system was thorough, for its advantages if realized are

very great, and it is to be hoped that some modification will be adopted to

secure them; but I think it cannot be disputed that, as at present

constructed, it does not yield the results promised by the inventor, and it

is open to very serious objections.
This is not the only case in this country where the system has been proved

unsatisfactory, but it is only fair to add the testimony of Mr.

Hetherington, who writing on the 22nd of August, 1866, says, that he has

just returned from the United States where he had seen a number of these

boilers working with considerable success.
The inventor has, however, discontinued the manufacture in this country, and

asks £25 per ton for the boiler castings, exclusive of fittings, supplied

from America, a price which, under the circumstances, offers certainly no

inducement to make further experiments with them.
In Plate VII. the outline of a slab of spheres is shown, and only sufficient

of the sphere castings as to explain the mode of building up the slab.
NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEERS.
GENERAL MEETING, THURSDAY, DECEMBER 6, 1866, IN THE ROOMS
OP THE INSTITUTE, NEVILLE HALL, WESTGATE STREET,
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
ISAAC LOWTHIAN BELL, Esq., Vice-President of the Institute, in the Chair.
The minutes of the Council having been read, it was resolved that Mr. T. E.

Forster, Mr. Potter, Mr. Marley, Mr. Boyd, and Mr. Cochrane represent the

Mining Institute, at the general meetings of the Societies, to consider the

question of building a Hall, etc., for the general purposes of all the

Societies.
On the motion of Mr. Cochrane, seconded by Mr. G. B. Forster, it was

resolved that instruments proper for making experiments with tail-ropes be

obtained at the charge of the Institute, and not of the special fund granted

for experiments.
The following new members were elected, viz. :—Mr. T. Spencer, Ryton; Mr. A.

Barclay, engineer, Kilmarnock; Mr. William Walker, Tonbridge Villas, Leeds;

Mr. B. Cochrane, Alden Grange, Durham; Mr. Alfred Coxon, Bedlington

Colliery; Mr. Charles Hunting, Fence Houses; Mr. Joshua T. Naylor, West

Clayton Street, Newcastle-upon-Tyne ; Mr. T. Hawthorn, Gateshead; Mr. George

Cockburn, Summer-hill Grove, Newcastle-upon-Tyne; and Mr. J. Reskern. Mr. J.

Simpson, Blaydon, was elected a graduate.
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Mr. W. Lishman's paper " On a System of Working Coal on the Long--wall

Plan/' was then read, Mr. Kirkby. attending on his behalf.
Mr. W. Green inquired what was the height of the seam and the nature of the

strata immediately above and below it ?
Mr. Kirkby—Four feet six inches. There is a very strong metal about four

feet above the seam.
Mr. Crone—What is the nature of the covering or roof overlying the

coal-seam?
Mr. Kirkby—Strong metal and post.
Mr. Crone—Four feet six inches of metal, and what thickness of post ?
Mr. Kirkby—I cannot tell exactly how much post, but more than twenty feet.
Mr. Crone—Does it fall equally immediately the chocks are removed ?
Mr. Kirkby—Yes, equally, and in a large frame.
Mr. W. Green—Do the frames break short and squarely off?
Mr. Kirkby—Yes, generally; and accordingly we do not lose one set of chocks

in the fall.
Mr. Steavenson—Does the back wall prevent your getting a good fall?
Mr. Kirkby—No, the falls break sharp off.
Mr. Steavenson—The wall will be a hindrance to the succeeding fall. It

will prevent your getting a free fall next time.
Mr. Kirkby—No, there is a space between of four feet.
Mr. Steavenson—You do not say that the back wall is ever taken out. It will

be in the way of the succeeding fall, and throw the weight on the coal.
Mr. Boyd—Do you use candles or lamps ?
Mr. Kirkby—We use candles throughout. We have no gas.
M. GUIBAL'S FAN VENTILATOR.
On the motion of Mr. Cochrane, it was resolved that the discussion on Mr.

Steavenson's paper " On Certain Experiments with M. Guibal's Ventilator," be

postponed.
Mr. Daglish not being present, the discussion on " Broadbent's Safety Cage "

was postponed.
The Chairman remarked that it was very desirable when a paper was announced

for discussion, that the discussion of it should be pro-
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ceeded with. Many gentlemen have doubtlessly come here to-day expecting to

hear it and only find that nothing can be done. He also remarked that it was

necessary in order to secure an early issue of the Parts of the

Transactions, that gentlemen who have proofs sent for correction should

return them to the Secretary with as little delay as possible.
HARRISON'S CAST-IRON BOILERS.
Mr. Cochrane said, he had only to add to his paper that his conclusions had

been confirmed by a gentleman in Staffordshire who adopted the boiler, and

who wrote to him a fortnight ago stating that he had been compelled for the

same reason to do away with it entirely. He had broken it up.
Mr. Willis said, he had promised to bring some experiments on cast-iron

boilers to the discussion; but, on looking at them he found that they would

assume a different shape from what appeared in Mr. Cochrane's paper, which

seemed more a description of the boiler. These were experiments as to the

raising of steam and the coal consumed. If he did anything with them it

would assume the shape of another paper.
The Chairman—Is it in favour of cast-iron boilers?
Mr. Willis—I would not say that; but I could not introduce them in a

discussion on this paper.
The meeting then broke up.
ON A SYSTEM OF
WORKING COAL BY THE LONG-WALL PLAN.
By WILLIAM LISHMAN.
Feeling it incumbent on me as a member of this Institute to contribute to

its Transactions in proportion to my humble capabilities, I beg- to offer

the following- remarks on what I consider to be an improved method of

working- coal. There may not perhaps be anything- extraordinary in these

remarks, but the facts will be stated so as to open a discussion on the

question as to whether we cannot improve on the bord-and-pillar mode of

working- coal, which is now almost the only method used in the counties of

Durham and Northumberland.
Mr. H. Vivian, M.P., in the concluding- paragraph of his motion for the

appointment of a government commission of inquiry on the probable duration

of Coal in Great Britain, alludes to this subject by enquiring-"whether

there is reason to believe that coal is lost either by bad working- or by

carelessness or neg-lect." Many letters have also been written and published

on this subject.
I, therefore, lay before you a short description of a modified plan of

working- long--wall, as introduced into the working- of the Brock well Seam,

at Newton Cap Colliery, near Bishop Auckland.
The annexed plan marked No. 1 (Plate IX.), shows eig-ht acres of coal won

out for future working- by modified long--wall. Three headways are driven

out from the main rolley-way for a distance of 300 yards. At A and B two

pairs of narrow bords are driven to the boundary or fault, and headways are

driven out of the narrow bord marked B. Headways are also driven across to

the air-way or boundary bords driven for ventilation, twenty-five yards

apart.
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There are three headway courses in working-, with one bay or working"

place going- in each headway.
The portion marked goaf has been worked off, and shows a pack-wall standing-

thus > >>» which is eight feet wide and capable of resisting- the pressure

from the goaf, and which thus leaves an open space between the pack-wall and

the coal.
The bays are driven about fifteen yards in width, and from three to four

rows of chocks are kept between the g-oaf and the face where the men are

working-. A pillar or pack-wall is built with stone taken from the goaf,

eight feet wide, and filled in the middle with rubbish. This wall is built

about four feet from the coal, leaving- sufficient open space for a tramway.

It is built up at nigiit and the back-chocks are drawn out at the same time.
Three men work in each bay, and as there are two shifts of men, eig-hteen

are employed in getting coals. The dead-work is done at nig-ht by shifters

who are employed for that purpose.
The pack-wall answers for two purposes :—1st. For keeping a safe way from

the face for the workmen and for the conveyance of the coals out. 2nd. When

the bay is finished it still remains standing-, and thus keeps an open space

of nearly four feet between the pack-wall and the future bay, thereby

saving* the risk of losing- any coal.
Upon due consideration I have arrived at the conclusion that of the two

systems the long--wall is incomparably the better. It possesses many

advantages, some of which I will enumerate. 1st. The whole of the mine may

be obtained. 2nd. The coals are produced much larger.
3rd. Less small coal is made in "kirving" and cutting-up the side. 4th. Less

pit timber is required. 5th. Less shift or dead work. 6th. The creep or

thrust cannot take place. 7th. Less strait work. Perhaps it is only fair to

state that there are disadvantages as well. 1st. Less out-put until the

exploring- places are driven out to the
boundary. 2nd. Additional cost of materials during- the first working-. 3rd.

The strait work having- to be driven out at once, will entail a much greater

cost for working the first few years. It will be seen that the method I have

adopted is a combination of the pillar-and-stall system and the long-wall so

far as driving to the
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extremity of the boundary or to the fault is concerned, and then bringing"

back the coal by long*-wall or semi-long--wall.
In working* coal we frequently hear of 10 per cent, of the whole produce

being- lost. Mr. Spencer states that 7 per cent, is lost at Woodifield

(Transactions of Mining- Institute, Vol. VIII., 1859, p. 89).
In 1861 Mr. A. Basset read a paper before the members of the South Wales

Institution of Engineers " On the large Proportion of Coal lost in

"Working," and there stated as the result of several investigations that the

loss of coals in working had in three instances exceeded 30 per cent, of the

actual contents of the mine, and that even a larger per centage was lost in

some of the mines.
In 1864 the late Mr. Joseph Goodwin read a paper entitled " Long-Wall versus

Pillar-and-Stall System of getting Coals." To show the change that has come

over the Lancashire coalawners, I will emote a paragraph from the above

paper, with an extract from the discussion thereon:—" That the long-wall

possesses advantages over the pillar-and-stall system under some

circumstances is indisputably true, while, on the other hand, it is simply

impossible to work some mines to advantage upon the long-wall plan, however

skilfully the workings may be directed. Perhaps the most important advantage

in the long-wall system is that all the coal may be worked out without the

slightest waste • this cannot be said of any other system."
Mr. Binney remarked "I think we are much obliged to Mr. Goodwin for bringing

a novelty before us, for evidently the long-wall working seems to be a

novelty in Lancashire."
Last year, an invitation having been given to the members of this society to

hold a special meeting in Manchester, which having been accepted,

arrangements were made for several excursions. One of these I attended, in

company with a large party, and, by the kind permission of Messrs. A.

Knowles and Sons, was allowed to examine the workings of the five-quarter

seam at Clifton Hall Colliery, where what is called a modified system of

long-wall is now being tried. On that plan the loss or waste was under 5 per

cent., and there was a fair per centage of large coal.
The plan marked No. 2 (Plate X.), shows the mode of working as pursued at

Clifton Hall Colliery, where the inclination of the seam is about 1 in 6. It

will be seen from this plan that three places are driven out from the

down-cast pit for a distance of 800 yards to the old workings, and then a

pair of bords are driven up the full rise to a large dip
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fault about 150 yards from the mainway and headways, which are driven 25

yards apart as shown in the plan.
The plan No. 3 (Plate XI.) shows, perhaps, the best mode of .working the

broken on the bord-and-pillar mode. The stripes coloured black in the

portions of the pillars worked off indicate the proportion of the mine

usually lost. This proportion ranges, I believe, from 7 to 10 per cent.
EXPLANATION OF PLATES.
Plate IX. represents eight acres of coal won out for working by modified

long-wall system.
Plate X. shows the plan of working by modified long-wall at Clifton Hall

Colliery.
Plate XI. shows the mode of working the "broken" on the bord-and-pillar

mode.
NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEERS.
GENERAL MEETING, SATURDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 1867, IN THE ROOMS
OF THE INSTITUTE, NEVILLE HALL, WESTGATE STREET,
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
T. E. FORSTER, Esq., President op the Institute, in the Chair.
Mr. Doubleday having- read the minutes of Council, the following" new

members were elected, viz.:—Mr. J. Roscamp, Acomb Colliery; Mr. Asquith,

Harton, South Shields; Mr. George Crow, Messrs. R. Stephenson and Co.'s

Engine Works; Mr. Joseph Thompson, Seaham Colliery; Mr. -William Boyd,

Spring Garden Iron Works; Mr. J. H. Moore, Smeaton Park; Mr. William Thomas,

Tow Law Iron Works j and Mr. John P. Harper, Derby.
CONVEYANCE OF COAL UNDERGROUND.
Mr. Daglish read a paper on the Conveyance of Coal Underground.
Mr. Berkley said, in the experiments made by Mr. Greenwell and himself, Mr.

Greenwell specially wished to have no particulars taken of the actual

pressure on the pistons of the engine, but merely to give the practical

results of the working. No doubt there was less power exerted than the steam

indicated near the engine; but they thought it was better to leave that out

of the experiment, so that it might be easier tested by other people.
Mr. Daglish said, he had been led to write this paper from what had been

advanced in the paper previously before them. The experiments Vol.

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which he had made tended to show that the friction of the tail-rope was

double that given hy the information before them. And now, when underground

operations had extended to such great distances, it was important to know

which was really correct. They would very soon get to the end of their power

when such an enormous force was required to move the ropes alone. The

Committee were now making experiments in Lancashire, which would no doubt

throw light on the subject.
The President—These experiments will test the merit of the endless-chain.
Mr. Daglish said, he believed Mr. Greenwell would be here himself next month

at the discussion on the paper.
The President said, if the Government should bring a Bill before Parliament

to make them sink more pits, which was not at all unlikely, the engine

planes would not be required quite so long.
FAN VENTILATION.
Mr. Cochrane read a paper entitled "A Comparison of the Guibal and Lemielle

Systems of Mechanical Ventilation;" in connection with which Mr.

Steavenson's translation of a statement of experiments with M. Guibal's

Ventilating Fan, was open for discussion.
Mr. Cochrane said, he was sorry that the paper was not complete. This arose

from the severe illness of M. Guibal, who had supplied him with the

information. In fact he (Mr. Cochrane) merely conveyed M. Guibal's

arguments, though he endorsed what he said. M. Guibal was really the

gentleman to whom the paper was due. The portion read to-day thoroughly

discusses the merits of M. Lemielle's pamphlet, copies of which M. Lemielle

had been requested to forward to the Institute. The paper gave important

information, and refuted many great errors which had been put forward in

respect to mechanical ventilation generally, and this mode of ventilation in

particular.
Mr. Steavenson said, they must give M. Lemielle fair play. Though Mr.

Cochrane had gone fully into the theory of mechanical ventilation, still, he

had not given the Institute any data as to the actual work utilised by each

machine. A mining gentleman in France was speaking to him lately, in

reference to Lemielle's machine, and he stated that a better machine he had

not met with. The pupils in the College of Mines there study for so many

months and then travel. One of them, writing* to him, said—" I must

congratulate you on the choice of M. Lemielle's machine. It seems to me the

best machine I have seen, both in Belgium and France, and it obtains'the

preference above all others. He did not
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say it was perfect; but it gave good results in mines with long air-ways.

The expense at first was more than M. Guibal's." It required great expense

in the construction, but it was important to adopt that which was the best.

He hoped, if Mr. Cochrane found himself in error, he would come forward and

admit it, as he had done on a former occasion. For his part, in examining-

M. Guibal's fan—and he had the pleasure of spending a day in experimenting

with it—he did not reach the results stated in M. Guibal's paper. He did not

reach fifty per cent, of power utilised, and they applied the speed as far

as they dared to go. Mr. Cochrane had instanced an occasion in which M.

Lemielle's fan broke down. He believed it was a fact that, in the

experiments made with M. Guibal's machine, there was an eccentric broken. He

did not say that this showed any defect of principle. It might be a defect

simply in the fitting up. Therefore, he thought they should not judge of M.

Lemielle's fan simply because it had broken down during an experiment, which

might be owing to negligence in adjusting it or oiling it. Neither M.

Lemielle, nor any of his agents, were here, and he hoped they would wait to

hear what he had to say; and, above all, that they would wait until the

machine was put up at Page Bank, when there would be an opportunity given of

judging from facts.
Mr. Daglish remarked, that without in any way wishing to detract from the

merits of mechanical ventilation, he would only just state that at the

Seaham Colliery, which is ventilated by furnace power, last week 320,000

cubic feet per minute were measured in the upcast shaft.
Mr. Cochrane said, Mr. Steavenson had read a letter recommending Lemielle's

system. He (Mr. C.) could have read a dozen in favour of the Guibal; but the

Council ruled that they should not be introduced into this discussion. He

wished to know in what respect he had acknowledged any error ?
Mr. Steavenson said, he referred to the cast-iron boilers.
Mr. Cochrane said, he had not heard the word "boilers." He did not, at

present, see any probability of his being forced to the abandonment of the

Guibal ventilator, as he had been in the case of cast-iron boilers, but he

would not hesitate to give up any apparatus which should be proved less

efficient, all circumstances considered, than another. Mr. Steavenson was

incorrect in giving the impression that any part of the Guibal ventilator

broke. The Government Inspector (Mr. Atkinson), who is present, would

confirm him in stating* that the eccentric rod that was broken had nothing

to do with the ventilator. It was the
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eccentric rod of the engine, and that was owing- to the negligence of the

person in charge who had not eased the bolts of the eccentric strap. In the

case of the breakages of the Lemielle ventilators it is the ventilator

itself which fails.
The discussion was then adjourned till the next meeting.
ON CONVEYANCE OF COAL UNDEEGBOUND.
By JOHN DAGLISH, F.G.S.
The subject of the Conveyance of Coal Underground, by ropes worked by engine

power, has, on several occasions, been treated of in papers presented to the

Institute, by the late President, Mr. Nicholas Wood, and by other members;

in all these papers, however, the work actually done has been treated as a

matter of calculation rather than as the result of direct experiments, and

in many of the cases given as illustrations, the ultimate power of the

engines has borne little or no proportion to the work actually performed.
It occurred to the writer that a carefully arrang-ed series of experiments,

made on engine planes where the maximum effect was being obtained from the

engines, tabulated so as to allow comparison one with the other, and

accompanied by indicator diagrams showing the actual power given out at each

of the points, when the gradients of the engine plane (and, consequently,

also the power given out by the engines) varied, would be of service, not

only to the younger members of the profession, but also as a reference to

those who are entrusted with the management of collieries, and to whom it

might be of value to know readily the amount of work capable of being*

performed by any given engine over a line of road of a known length and

gradients.
To illustrate the necessity of actual experiments to determine the work done

by the engines, the writer wishes to refer to some points in a paper

recently read on this subject to the Institute, by Messrs. Greenwell and

Berkley.
At page 86, Vol. XV., of the Transactions, the writers say— "During this

experiment the pressure of steam, as indicated at the" "engine, was

twenty-nine lbs. per square inch, the diameter of the" "piston twenty

inches, and the space travelled by each 210 feet per" "minute. We have,

therefore, the power represented by 3,826,408 lbs."
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"moved one foot in one minute." This is equal to 116 horse-power actual, and

this power the writers estimate to be exerted continually throughout the

entire route.
Again, Messrs. Greenwell and Berkley calculate the resistance due to the

haulage of the rope itself from friction of rollers, etc., to be 114373

lbs., at the rate of 630 feet per minute, or 720,562 lbs. moved one foot in

one minute, or equivalent to 21-8 horse-power actual. This is little more

than one-sixth of the calculated power given out by the engines.
The writer does not mean to assert that the engine in question is not

capable of giving the 116 horse-power actual; on the contrary, there can be

no doubt but that with a greater pressure per square inch, or a greater

velocity, it is quite capable of being worked up to higher power; but he

believes that, under the given circumstances, if an indicator had been

applied, it would have exhibited the actual pressure on the piston not to

have reached twenty-nine lbs. per square inch as the maximum, and that even

this would vary g'reatly according to the load and gradient over which it

had to be carried. Practically the engineman is continually varying the

pressure in the cylinder, by means of the throttle-valve at various portions

of the route, and it is comparatively seldom that the full pressure of steam

is applied. In addition, an allowance must be made for back-pressure, etc.,

which would certainly amount to several pounds loss.
The accompanying section (Plate XII.) represents the North Way Engine Plane

in the East Minor Pit at Hetton Colliery:—
Ft. in.
The engine is a double horizontal high-pressure engine—
Diameter of cylinders ... ........ 012
Length of stroke ............... 2 0
Diameter of spur-wheels ............ 5 0
Diameter of pinion............... 2 6
Two boilers, plain cylindrical, diameter...... 5 4
„ length............... 24 0
Area of fire-grate ... 5 ft. X 5 ft. 4 in. = 2G-G6 sq. ft.

Circumference of ropes ... ... ... ... 2^

in.
Length of plane ............ 1900 yds.
Above the line of section are placed the diagrams, as given by an indicator,

of the actual pressure on the piston at various points on the route, where

the gradient varies, whilst the empty tubs are drawn inbye, and below the

line of section are diagrams showing the amount of power
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expended at the various points in drawing* the full tubs outbye. At

different points on the line, which traverses all round the section, and

indicates the direction in which the wagons are travelling-, are placed

figures, denoting- the time (in minutes) occupied in passing- over various

portions of the route.
The g-reatest power exerted by this engine is in drawing- thirty full tubs,

or 20-08 tons up an incline of 1 in 166, the power exerted here by the

engine is 52-2 horse-power actual, the indicated pressure being- 28 lbs. per

square inch (with a pressure in the receiver of 36 lbs. per square inch),

the number of revolutions being- sixty-eight per minute.
With the same pressure of steam in the boilers, the actual horsepower

indicated by the engine, when running empty at the rate of seventy-two

revolutions per minute, was five horse-power; and the power expended by

dragging the rope along, at the rate of sixty revolutions per minute, as

shown by the indicator, was 25*5 horse-power (and this reduced to the common

term of sixty-eight revolutions gives 26"7 horsepower, or fully one-half of

the power expended in drawing the load for friction of ropes and engine).
The result of the experiments with this engine may be tabulated thus :—
The maximum power to drag the load ... 52-2 H.P.
The average ditto ............ 40 „
The constant power to drag the ropes along was 25-5 „
The friction of engine alone......... 5 „
The length of rope moving being ...... 3800 yards.
The average rise inclination......... 1 in 174.
Load being ............ 30 tubs of 8 cwts.
This plane is 2500 yards long, with an average dip of 1 in 50, the rope paid

out being 5000 yards.
On Plate XIII. are given the results of experiments recently made with the

engine plane at Seaham No. 1 Pit, being indicator diagrams of the pressure

in the cylinder of the underground hauling engine.
Fio-. 1 is a diagram, taken when the full tubs are being drawn up the

heaviest part of the plane (1 in 387). The horse-power exerted •amounts to

94 H.P. actual.
Fig. 3 is a diagram, taken when the ends of the ropes are coupled together

and the engines running without any tubs attached to them, showing the

friction of the ropes and engine alone. The power exerted in dragging the

ropes being 43 H.P. actual.
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Fig-. 2 is the diagram of the indicated pressure, when the engine is running

alone with the drums out of gear, showing the absorption of power by

friction on the engine alone, which amounts to 11 H.P. actual.
The result may be tabulated thus:—
Power required to drag the load............ 94 H.P.
Power required to drag the ropes and engine ...... 43 „
Power required to overcome the friction of engine only 11 „
Length of plane ..................2500yards.
Length of rope moving ...............5000jrards.
Average dip inclination ............... 1 in 50.
Load being ..................60 tubs of 8 cwts.
Circumference of main rope ............ 2f '¦•-.
„ „ tail tope............... 2J in.
Diagram Fig. 4 was taken when the engine ran the empty tubs in-bye down a

gradient of 1 in 387, and the Fig. 5 when the engine ran with the ropes

alone, the ends being' coupled together, down the same gradient. The power

exerted in dragging the ropes alone is actually larger than the power

expended in taking the tubs inbye. This is often the case on inclinations

where the engineman actually has to put the brake on in order to prevent the

tail rope from getting slack by the tub over-running; the gradient being

heavier than required to overcome the friction of the ropes.
Now, comparing this with the Marley Hill engine plane, which is SOOO yards,

and a heavier rope (circumference of rope, 2f in.), the horsepower required

to drag the ropes alone along should be much greater than 21 H.P., as given

by Messrs. Greenwell and Berkley, as previously mentioned.
It was originally the intention of the writer to have given a series of

results of experiments on various planes similar to .that now given; but a

Committee of the Institute having recently been appointed specially to

consider and report on the subject of underground haulage by ropes and

chains, he feels that the subject will now be better left in their hands.
Plate XII. represents a section of the North Way Engine Plane in the East

Minor Pit, Hetton Colliery.

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Plate XIII. Diagrams showing the results of experiments made on the Engine

Plane at Seaham No. 1 Pit.
A COMPARISON OF
THE GUIBAL AND LEMIELLE
S Y S ,T E MS OF
MECHANICAL VENTILATORS.
Communicated by Wm. COCHRANE.
In the notice which I present to you I shall adhere as closely as possible

to the line of argument adopted hy M. Guibal, who, residing- in the

immediate district where mechanical ventilators have heen more fully tested

than in any other locality, has the facility of ascertaining' facts and of

forming- a judgment upon the merits of each system which it is difficult

otherwise to ohtain. M. Guihal directs his attention chiefly to the

comparison of his own ventilator (of which a description is already in your

Transactions, with the record of experiments upon it), and that of M.

Lemielle, which represent two systems quite distinct in theory and practice.

The latter has recently heen broug-ht prominently before this Institute,

though not for the first time, as will be seen by a reference to Vol. VI.,

p. 130 of the Transactions. It is stated to be the most perfect system of

ventilation for mines, and it is this claim which, I think, M. Guibal

satisfactorily refutes, at the same time affording-valuable information on

the subject of mechanical ventilation.
In order to attain the object in view, true scientific theories and actual

facts will be brought in opposition to the false ideas and incorrect

assertions which have been recently advanced in a pamphlet to which I shall

make frequent reference.* The questions at issue shall be thoroughly

examined, and I trust you will give careful attention to them, for they are

of public interest. I need not, I am sure, instance
* Notice on the Ventilation of Mines by means of Lemielle's Ventilator. Vol.

XVI.-1866.

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the recent appalling- colliery accidents in England as an incentive to the

deeper study of the ventilation of mines in order to protect lives and

property from such terrible catastrophes. To this end it is important that

the laws of ventilation be more g-enerally known than they are, and

erroneous ideas among miners dispelled. Of these errors so many occur in the

pamphlet upon Lemielle's ventilator, to which I refer, that it becomes a

duty to combat them, for when once exposed, the propagation of them, with

its attendant danger, will be hindered.
In the first part of this discussion I shall follow successively the

arguments of the pamphlet above-mentioned, which I understand contains the

grounds of the recommendation of the Lemielle system; and thus easy

reference for comparison can be made.
In the second part I will discuss the general theories of the Guibal and of

the Lemielle ventilators, or rather of the two types to which these two

ventilators are referable, and I shall show by a full comparison, the

superiority of the former to the latter.
In conclusion, to make this discussion of the general interest and good

which are my main object in undertaking it, I will point out the means by

which, with really efficient mechanical ventilators, accidents arising from

the explosive mixtures found in coal-mines may be rendered less frequent and

less serious.
PARAGRAPH I.—PRESENT CONDITION OF THE VENTILATION
OF MINES.
It is here asserted that the immense development given in our days to

coal-mining has made all former methods of ventilation insufficient, and the

abandonment is predicted of these methods, and the replacing of all by the

Lemielle apparatus. No person, I think, will contradict the first statement,

for it is this consideration which has directed the attention of

mining-engineers to design a ventilator equal to the new requirements. As to

the abandonment of all methods known hitherto, it can only mean, that the

dimensions which mechanical ventilators have attained being-proved

insufficient, or their arrangement defective, they will no longer be

persevered in, for the principles on which they have been constructed are

the only ones on which a ventilating apparatus can be based, and therefore

cannot be abandoned; and M. Lemielle, though his words give a contrary

impression, is evidently of this opinion, for he simply enlarges the

proportions of his old ventilator to bring' it out as new. The point on

which we differ is the true merit of the principle of his system. lie

thinks the principle involved in his ventilator is the
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best, and that he has practically carried it out in the most effective

manner. I think that it is a principle the least adapted to an apparatus

intended to produce large volumes of air and to overcome great resistances,

and of all applications of the principle that could have been devised, that

of M. Lemielle is the least calculated to bear the increased proportions to

which it is to be carried.
There are only two fundamental principles, first, that of the action of a

pump, or as it is generally styled the principle of "varying capacities;"

second, that of " impulsion." The little importance I attach to the first,

for reasons hereafter to be explained, led to the adoption of the second,

and the difficulty presented itself to remove from its practice certain

defects which for a long time were considered inherent to it. That this

difficulty has been overcome, and that the Guibal ventilator is equal to the

requirements of the most extensive mines, of which M. Lemielle seems not to

be aware, I can refer to the ventilators working in England and Wales, which

produce 110,000 cubic feet per minute, with a water-gauge of three inches,

as at Staveley, Pelton, and Middle Duffryn, and others of various power. In

Belgium the ventilator is worked to produce a water-gauge as high as

eight-and.-a-half inches, as at the mines of Monceau Fontaine.
RESULTS OF STAVELEY VENTILATOR.
Diameter of ventilator ..................... 30 feet.
Width................................ 10 »
Diameter of cylinder ..................... 25 inches.
Stroke................................. 25 „
Two horizontal engines are arranged opposite each other, so that either can

be applied to the same crank.
This ventilator is the best arranged of any which have hitherto been erected

in
England.
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PAEAGEAPH II.-COMPAETSON OF THE VAEIOUS MECHANICAL VENTILATOES.
i» „ . g « .
1^1 |j | | II ||| | |
NAMES OF THE VENTILATOES. .9 P g p, g

¦3.3 T1 '[J g I", 2 g.S T1
j cub. yd.

cub. yd.
With curved wings (Combes) 6-08 0*826' 1-27 P495*

3-70 1*44
^STrST.^r.?*!!]} 9'24 1,9G8" 4-61 2'282" 1,3°4 °-76
With screw (Motte) ............| 8-61 0-826" 1-80 0-983"

5-640 1*40
With spiral (Paquet)............\ 13-83 1-101* 3-87 1-770"

8-000 3-60
With mill wings (Lesoinnc) ... 12-16 0-511" 1-98 0-511"

12-160 P98
With wheel (Fabry) ............' 16-84 1-613" 6"96 3-385"

5-600 4-82
This table is extracted from M. Ponson's work, upon which M. Lemielle bases

the relative values of ventilators most g-enerally in use; condemning- all

previous systems, excepting- his own, which does not figure in this list,

although it ought to have appeared in it, seeing that the date of its

invention is 1852. This table g'ives in one column the maximum volumes and

corresponding- depressions, in another the maximum depressions and the

corresponding- volumes from experiments which were made twenty or

twenty-five years since on ventilating apparatus then in use in Belgium.

Without reference to the progress made since that date, the insufficiency of

these tabulated results is brought into glaring- contrast with the modern

requirements of mines, and especial stress is laid on the fact that all

these ancient systems yielded volumes of air proportionately less as the

depression under which the air was extracted was greater; hence the

deduction that such ventilators cannot answer the desired conditions.

Persuaded that a new system is, therefore, necessary, he finds that his own

is the only solution of the problem, because it is free from this serious

defect which attaches to other systems. Nothing- is easier than to show the

error of M. Lemielle in this conclusion, but to do this, the true

interpretation of the tabulated results must be given, and I invite your

attention to theory and actual facts to establish this point.
Theoretically, a mine, considered for the purpose of ventilation, is a

passage consisting- of a succession of shafts and galleries, in which air
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circulates in greater or less quantity, as the force which produces its

motion preponderates over the resistances it encounters, therefore the

results obtained depend on the intensity of this force, and not on the

nature of the means of producing- it. For instance, it could not happen that

a depression of 4" produced by the Lemielle ventilator should have more

power than the same depression produced by a ventilator with flat vanes, or

by the pneumatic wheel system of Fabry.
Therefore, in such passag-e the g-eneral laws of air in motion must apply,

among- which, under similar conditions in other respects, the volumes

passing- are in the proportion of the square roots of the forces applied to

produce the motion ; that is, if v and h express the volume and depression

in one case, and v' and h' in another, for the same mine and in the same

condition,
v : v' = v/h : ^h!
Or JL = Jl
' h h'
That is, for the same mine, the relation of the square of volume of air to

the depression producing- the volume remains constant, no matter what

variation in intensity of current there may be; and experiment confirms this

law. Hence, if in two successive experiments the same mine furnishes not the

constant, but
__ = k, and -«-. = k'
h lr
it is evident that the conditions of the mine have varied for the two

experiments.
Now the value of k depends on the leng-th of run of the air, the areas of

the sections of drifts, and the perimeter of these sections, and any

modification of these varies the value of k.
The conclusions drawn by M. Lemielle differ widely from the laws thus

enunciated. For instance, a ventilator produces in a mine a current of 10ms,

with a depression of 50m/m; and, in a subsequent experiment, 5m8; with a

depression of 100in/m. He does not suspect that in the conditions of the

mine itself an explanation of this irregularity is to be found, but he at

once blames the ventilator, without perceiving that he must attribute to the

arrangement or to the principle of the apparatus the singular property of

producing at one time a small depression which is very effective, and at

another a large depression, which is not effective at all.
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The values of k and of k', resulting- from the table above mentioned, are as

follow :—
NAMES OF THE VENTILATORS. MAXIMUM VOLUME. MAXIMUM

DEPRESSION.
k = — k' = -~T
h h
6'08a 3'72
With curved wings (Combes)......... —;— = 44-8 __—

= 9-15
•826 l-49o
9-'M22 1-3042
With flat wings (or centrifugal force) - _ = 43-4 ———=

0-74
& v & ' 1-968

2-282
With screw (Motte) ..................... 8'61* = 90-

—'— — 32-8
v -826

-983
With spiral (Paquet)..................... 13-3- = 190- ^°-

= 361
1 v L J 1-0101

1-77
With mill wings (Lesoinne)............ 12^16f = 268-4

12'J;|-L = 283-4
•511 'oil
With wheel (Fabry)..................... 16'84' = 177-4

5*^1= 9-2
v Jy 1-613

3-385
To produce such great differences in the values of k and k', the condition

of the mine must have been greatly altered from one experiment to the other.

In fact, this did take place, not by chance but purposely, and by closing

the mouth of the shafts. The proofs of this are recorded in M. Ponson's

work, in the second volume, page 155, from which the experiments on " flat

wings" in the above table are taken, but with this difference in recording,

viz.: they are distinguished in M. Ponson's work under two classes of

experiments. M. Lemielle gives them as if under the same conditions. In

fact, the first experiments, as M. Ponson remarks, were not only upon the

open mine, but at a time when the arrangement of the workings was exercising

an advantageous influence on the ventilation, to such an extent that the

ventilator, making the same number of revolutions per minute and with the

same depression, yielded l-83m8 more air than the ordinary quantity of

5-092m3, whilst he points out that the second experiment was conducted to

ascertain the useful effect under the influence of a high depression,

obtained by almost completely closing the orifice of the intake shaft.
Similar explanations are found in M. Ponson's work on the "screw" of Motte,

at page 175; and on the Fabry "wheels," at page 197. For
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the Combes' Ventilator, the original notice of M. Glepin must be consulted,

in Vol. III. of the " Bulletin du Musee de l'lndustrie Beige," p. 298, where

it is mentioned that the distribution of air in the mine was changed when

the larger volume with smaller depression was obtained.
Thus, the indications of theory are confirmed in respect of all the

apparatus in the very results upon which they are condemned by M. Lemielle;

and it cannot be doubted that he is wrong in attributing to these apparatus,

as a defect, the property of displacing a volume of air smaller in

proportion as depression produced becomes greater. I doubt if any engineer

would advance such an opinion; but the argument against it is incontestible.

Notwithstanding, it will, perhaps, be urged by the supporters of the

Lemielle system, that there is no obstruction of the air-current which can

diminish the volume of air drawn into his ventilator as the depression

produced increases. To anticipate this false argument, I shall refer to

experiments made by M. Jochams, in 1855, on a Lemielle ventilator,

established at the mine of Bayemont, the details of which are recorded in

Vol. XV., p. 25, of the " Annales des Travaux Publics de Belgicpie," and

from which it appears that this apparatus, which yielded 6-989m8 of air per

second, under a depression of 50m/m, when the mine was quite open, only

yielded 6-409m3 when the opening of the shaft was almost closed, although

the depression had increased to 75 m/m, and in this instance, the values of

k and k' did not remain the same, they are respectively -977 and -548, so

that it is clearly seen from these experiments, that the Lemielle is no more

exempt than the other ventilators from a decrease of volume under an

increase of depression; and no wonder, for is it not self-evident that

whatever apparatus is employed to ventilate a mine, it can only discharge

the air which enters it 1
Finally, the table in which M. Lemielle thinks he finds so powerful an

argument in favour of his apparatus, means absolutely nothing, if not this,

and common sense would indicate it to everybody—viz., that when the opening-

of a shaft is contracted, the air no longer enters the mine with the same

facility. It is a subject of regret that the above-mentioned table was not

completed by the experiments of M. Jochams, at the mine of Bayemont, for it

would then have been evident that if the conclusions drawn therefrom are

true for other apparatus, they are also true for the Lemielle, and thus this

error would have been avoided. However, it is a happy circumstance that such

a principle is not true,
lm3 per second is about 2120 cubic feet per minute. I retain the French

measures throughout, as offering great advantages for calculation.
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otherwise mining- industry must have despaired of ever satisfying- the

growing wants of ventilation.
PARAGRAPH III.—VENTILATION WITH PNEUMATIC WINGS ON LEMIELLE'S SYSTEM.
The Lemielle system is stated to have been employed for a long* time in

Belgium and France at many mines, and an example is instanced by M. Lemielle

as showing- the power of his first ventilator • it is that ol Creuzot, where

one of his apparatus produced a depression of 300 m/m (11-81 inches). The

impression is also given that the new ventilator is different from the first

one, of which a description is found in the Transactions of the Institute

(Vol. VI.). A careful comparison, however, with the ventilator at Douchy,

which was erected in 1803, shows that the system is the same, the dimensions

only being- varied, and a few unimportant details of construction attended

to.
The first Lemielle apparatus has certainly enjoyed but little favour
among mining engineers in France and Belgium, as can be learnt by
reference to the mines where it has been in use. It remains to be seen
how much better success will attend the so-called second; but really the
first revived.
At the end of M. Laurent's paper (Vol. VI.), a list of mines is given where

the first ventilator was in use. Among these forty-five cases, there are

several small machines used for blowing forge-fires, for instance, those

used by the Anzin Company, who, however, had two, not three as stated. I

also remark that four apparatus are stated to be at work with the " Societe

des Produits •" these, I know, never existed. Again, the " Societe de

Braquegnies" never had more than one, instead of two, as figuring in the

list; so that little reliance can be placed on this list, which takes credit

for ventilators which have not been established. I believe there is not

one-fourth of these ventilators enumerated at work now ,• they have been

done away with and replaced by the Fabry and by the Guibal. I instance,

among the latter, the ventilators of the mines of " Bonne Esperance," "

Fosse du Verger d'Anzin," of " Strepy Braquegnies," and of " Ronchamp."
And now I propose to examine the Creuzot ventilator, to which M. Lemielle

calls especial attention as a model of his system.
Let me remark, first, that not the ventilation of a large mine, but of some

particular portion of workings, is the instance he gives ; for he mentions

the air-current as passing along a passage of 104 square inches section

(-0076m2) and 318 yards long -(286..i), therefore, the volume
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of air circulating- could not be large, notwithstanding the evidence of M.

Schneider, the mine owner, that the workings were sufficiently ventilated.
The exact information of the extent of these workings is as follows:— The

air descended by a shaft 370m diameter, 315m deep, and along a gallery 272m2

area x 270m long, then along a gallery of 360m2 x 150m long. The current

then returned, along a gallery of L60m2 area x 130m long, and a bricked

archway of -26m2 area x 270m long to the bottom of the shaft, where a

sheet-iron tube, of the dimensions named by M. Lemielle, conveyed it up the

shaft to the inlet of the ventilator.
The extent of workings being sufficient to employ twelve or fifteen men, an

opinion may be formed of the importance of the Creuzot ventilation.
To have a fair appreciation of the wrork done, the volume and the dimensions

of the ventilator, as well as its speed, should have been stated, but this

information is withheld. I am, therefore, induced to make a calculation from

such data as are communicated, to ascertain these details.
CALCULATIONS UPON THE CREUZOT VENTILATOR. Depression 11-81" = 300m/m of

water.
Theoretical velocity of air v = ^2 g h = 2 g x '300 x 1oo
¦\ _L" r^jt)
.-. v = 67-40m. And, supposing one-third the velocity lost by contraction of

the passage and the resistances, the actual velocity would be about 40m per

second. The section of the passage is 101"= -0076m2. Volume extracted, 40

x •0676 = 2704m3 per second.
Now, the Bayemont ventilator proves a reentry of air of 2-744m8 under 50m/m

depression, therefore, under 300m/m, the reentry of air will
be 2-744 ~ = 6-585m3. ¦si oO
2-704m8 The yield of air will be, therefore, p.*QK ¦ 0.704. = '^> anc^

^ie
engine having- a coefficient of -65, the total useful effect will be -29 +

•65 = -19.
The volume, per revolution, of the Bayemonfc ventilator, is 36-500m3, the

total volume generated being 6-585 + 2704 = 9-289m8; hence,
O.QQQ 3
the apparatus would be working at —___ = -25 revolutions per second,
36-(>00m3
or -25 x 60 = 15 revolutions per minute.
Vol. XVI.—1807.

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The depression being- 300m/m, the theoretical velocity of the air is 6?-40m

per second. The contraction at the entrance of the passage, and the

resistances along- it, lead to the opinion that the real velocity could not

exceed 40m • and in such case the volume of air in one second would not

exceed 2*7m8. The apparatus is probably similar to the Lemielles which were

made at that time;* for instance, that of Bayemont referred to. The

experiments by M. Jochams, on this apparatus, afford the means of

ascertaining- the volume that the Lemielle ventilator must have generated,

to create the above-mentioned current in the passage. This volume, so

calculated, is 9*289m3, corresponding to fifteen revolutions of the

apparatus per minute. Therefore, to draw 2*7m8 of air, a volume of 9-289m3

has been generated in the ventilator, representing' a useful effect, in air

extracted, of only 29 %. If we admit that the engine which drives the

ventilator transmits to the axis #65 of the steam power applied to the

piston (which is a fair result from experiments to be given hereafter), the

useful effect of the Creuzot ventilator is reduced to 19 °/0. And this is,

in practice, the cost at which the large depressions, so much insisted upon

under the Lemielle system, are attained.
PARAGRAPH IV.—INFERIORITY (AS ALLEGED BY LEMIELLE) OF
VENTILATORS WITH FLAT WINGS MORE OR LESS IMPROVED. M. Lemielle again appeals

to his imaginary objections against all ventilators except his own, and

states that, with his ventilator, winch acts like a pump, the depressions,

however great, have only a very slight influence on the volume of air

displaced. As he adds no proof of this assertion, I presume that he

relies on appearances, as he did in the case of the decrease of the volume

of air corresponding, as he stated, with an increase of depression in all

ventilators except his own. True, that in all the experiments reported as

made at Aniche, and at Nord du Bois de Boussu, the volume of air extracted

from the mine at each revolution of the apparatus remains nearly constant,

notwithstanding' considerable difference in the depressions produced;

therefore, there is clearly foundation for the statement; and, indeed, how

can it be otherwise, since theory indicates that, under the circumstances of

a mine offering the same conditions of resistance, which is the case in

point, such result must follow. But, I must add that this is equally true

for ventilating apparatus of any kind, and that M. Lemielle errs in

attempting to attribute it to his only. Another error is also apparent,

and springs from the same source as the first, for I shall show

that, if the volume
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extracted by each revolution of his apparatus remains constant, it is not

because it acts like a pump, but simply because the shafts where the

experiments were conducted remained fully open during' the experiment. And I

will further show that, if the shafts had been more or less closed, as was

the case with the other ventilators previously mentioned, the volume

extracted would have decreased in the same manner.
The Lemielle ventilator acts by forming a succession of increasing-and

decreasing capacities, which alternately draw air in and force it out, like

the pnuematic wheels of Fabry, piston machines, bell plungers, and all the

apparatus on the pump principle, which, from this action, are called

machines of "varying capacities." These capacities being known, and the

number of times they are filled and emptied in a unit of time, the volume

generated by the apparatus is at once calculable.
The volume of air extracted from the mine would be equal to the volume

generated, if passages of varying number and dimensions did not allow the

air exterior to the apparatus to enter it, and only in the event of

preventing such reentry could it be said that the volume displaced is

independent of the depression produced. But if there are sources of leakage

in the apparatus, the volume of exterior air which is thus let in will

increase as the depression increases, and therefore the air drawn from the

mine will proportionately diminish.
This simple enunciation of what takes place in all ventilators of " varying

capacities," but especially in Lemielle's, will form a basis for the

following demonstration :— Let it be assumed that
Vu be the volume per second of air-current produced by a Lemielle

ventilator; in other words, its " useful or effective volume," Vr the volume

per second which reenters the apparatus through
the open spaces, or the " ineffective volume," Ve the volume per second

generated (engendre), or the " theoretical volume." For every ventilator in

action upon a mine, Vu is known by means of measurements, and Ve by the

actual dimensions of the apparatus. Vr is found, therefore, from Vu and

Ve, for the theoretical volume is equal to the sum of the useful volume and

the reentering volume :
Ve = Vu + V, Now, let the number of revolutions in a second be observed and

represented by n (ordinarily this number is taken per minute, and
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then n = — \—the useful volume corresponding- to each revolution, and which

we will represent by Q, will be equal to —-.
Now, the volume of air Q, extracted from a mine by one revolution
of the apparatus under a depression h, is the same as the volume Q'
under another depression h' obtained by an increase or decrease of speed
of the apparatus, so long- as the mine remains free—that is, if no chang'e
has been made in the length of the air-course, or in the area of shaft or
galleries, or in their perimeter. The values of Q and Q' being-

respectively
V V
—2. and —£, it remains to be proved that, at whatever depression they
are observed (the mine remaining* under the same conditions), these
values are equal, i.e., that —— = -r^.
n n
Now, any cause by which the depression produced by an air-current
in a mine varies from h to h', varies also the volume Vu in such a
manner, that
m....................v = v —
LJ u uJh
Every modification in the depression influences in a like manner the volume

which flows throug-h existing- orifices, such as the joints of the

apparatus, hence, for the volume re-entering- in the second case,
PJ..................V''=v-J?
The volumes g-enerated being- proportional to the number of revolutions
of the apparatus
Ve : V'e = n : n'
Or, Vu + Vr : V'u + V'r = n : n'
V' + V from which n' = n x vu vr-
V u i ' r
by substitution of above values n' == n ( " ? ) - = n .-
but Q' = V -—jp = Is = /. Q;
11 njE n
so that the volume displaced by each revolution of the apparatus remains

constant, whatever be the depression produced j and this is true, for every

ventilating apparatus so long- as the conditions of the mine
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remain unchanged. And it is important to observe that this is true,

independent of the greater or less volume of reentering air. The Lemielle

ventilator is subject to this universal principle, but it is an erroneous

conclusion to draw therefrom that no reentries of air arise in the Lemielle.
The above demonstration exposes very clearly the unsound reasonings upon the

Lemielle system, which may advantageously be further elucidated by a

comparison.
Suppose water is being drawn from a well by two vessels alternately, each

capable of containing one hundred pints, andnt is found that the one only

contains eighty pints when brought to the surface, the time occupied in

transit being one minute, and the other which has been raised in half a

minute, also contains eighty pints, can it be inferred that the two vessels

having brought the same volume of water at each ascent, have neither of them

lost any in their course ? On the contrary, it must be at once admitted that

each vessel has lost twenty pints, and that the second vessel presents

sources of leakage of double the extent of the first, since it has lost an

equal volume in half the time.
The same conclusions are drawn from the experiments made on all ventilators

of " varying capacities." They present sources of leakage— for the useful

volume is never equal to that which they generate, and, inasmuch as they

yield an equal useful volume per revolution at various speeds on the same

mine, the only conclusion is, that more air enters these apparatus when they

work quickly than when they work slowly, otherwise their effect ought to

increase with their speed.
The error in this case arises from neglecting the consideration of the

increase of the reentering volume proportionate, as is well known, to the

higher depressions due to the increased speed, and it is forgotten that the

increase of the reentering volume is concealed by the increased "useful

volume" which follows the same law in the case of a free mine, and that it

is necessary, in order to make evident the reentries of air, to experiment

on different mines, or on the same mine, under various conditions of

resistance, such as will yield depressions independent of the speed of the

ventilator.
The following demonstration will make this clear; for, what is the useful

volume corresponding to a revolution of the apparatus in the case of the

speed of the apparatus remaining constant ? It is found that a variation in

the depression arises on opening or shutting the orifice of the shaft, in

other words, in varying the conditions of resistance of the current.
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Adopting- the same notations as in the first demonstration, we shall have

the value for the useful volume per revolution,
Q = f under the depression h ) ^ ^ remainin„,
¦ V'„ , , ( constant:
Q' = —= .................. h
^ n
but Vu = Ve - Vr and V'u = V'e - V'r
.-. Q = Yc ~ Vr and Q' = Y'° ~ V-r n n
and V = Vr J- and V'e = Ve since velocity is the same in the two cases, >|

h
h'
.". Q' = —---------— a value evidently smaller than Q = —-------r
and diminishing* as h' becomes greater than h. The useful volume,

corresponding to each revolution, is, therefore, no longer constant under

these new circumstances.
The experiments of M. Jochams, at the Colliery of Bayemont, already quoted,

will serve me to prove that theory is here again in conformity with

practice.
In the first experiment on the free mine he found, at sixteen revolutions of

the apparatus, 6'989m8 (Vu) under a depression of 50™/m (h), .-. Q = I?= ^ x

60- = 6-989 x GO = 26.2080m. per revolntion.
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In the second experiment on the mine partly closed, he found a
volume of 6-409m8 under a depression of 75m/m (h'),
. o' - V'» - V'- x 60 - 6'409 x 60 = 24-030m3 per revolution. "y ~T>T"

N 16 F
60" M. Jochams having- calculated the volume generated per revolution
of this apparatus, found it to he 36-500m8. Therefore, when it made
sixteen revolutions per minute, the volume generated in a second, or V„
36-500 x 16 Q ~qq 8 was------------------= y vodm°.
hence Vr = Va - Vu = 9733m3 - 6-989^= 2744-F,
and Q' = Ve~V^E = 9.788-2744 <] 50 = 03.904,^.
60 The practical result was 24-030ms
, . ,24-030 -23-904 _ >n05 .*. the error is to the extent 01

------94-030-------- ~~
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2fi-208
In the first experiment the useful effect in air was ----- = 71,
36-5
24-030 and in the second, with the mine partly closed, - ^ . ' . = -65.
1 J ' 36-0
Now, as the formula in this case agrees so nearly with the experimental
results, it will be readily admitted that in any other cases the deductions
drawn from it will represent very accurately the actual facts, so that
we may deduce from this same formula what would have been the result
at Bayemont if the shaft had been more nearly closed, so as to increase
the depression to 300m/m (which M. Lemielle states was obtained at
Creuzot) the speed of the ventilator remaining- the same. Under these
I 300 •
., , ,n'- 9733m8 - 2744m8 *J 50 circumstances the

value of Q is =--------------=-5-------------- = ll'80m8
60" the useful volume per revolution; and as the apparatus generated
36-50m3 the useful effect in air would be —-----= -33 or onlv \.
Can it be said, in the face of such results, that the depression produced

has only a very slight influence on the volume of air extracted by the

Lemielle ventilator 1
The volume reentering- per second would be in this case
V'r = Vr \1' = 2-744 x §22 = 6-585m3. Nil *J

50
And as the volume generated per second, at sixteen revolutions per minute,

is 9733m3, it follows that the useful effect in air will only be
V'u = V'e - V, = 9-733 - 6-585 = 3T48m3, which gives the same result as

above,
3-148 .QQ iA 9733= 33ot^-
It is easy to see, as the useful effect decreases from -71 to -33, when the

depression increases from 50ra/m to 300in/m, that there will be a depression

at which there will be no air drawn from the mine. Such will be the case

when the volume re-entering is 9733m3, that is when
2-744 %- = 9733m3
N 00
fiQ.OQf*
Or, Vh7 = ^i3 = 25-3 i.e., h' = 629m/m, .*. if at sixteen revolutions per

minute the depression were 629m/m, the
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ventilator would not discharge any air. Indeed, if this value of h' be

substituted in the formula for Q', the result is zero,
9733 - 2744 ®® Q,= ------------^^ = 0
The conclusion, therefore, cannot be disputed that the Lemielle ventilator

does not possess the peculiar properties which are claimed for it alone, nor

are the other ventilators open to the objections which are made to them.

Should any doubts still remain on the points discussed, nothing- but a

practical test can set them at rest. This, however, cannot be other than

confirmatory of true theory.
PARAGRAPH V.—FIRST IMPROVED LEMIELLE VENTILATOR, ERECTED AT THE MINE DOUGHY,

AT ANICHE.
M. Lemielle gives an account of his first improved ventilator, erected in

1863, at a mine of the Aniche Company, to extract twenty cubic yards of air

per second, u under any amount of depression whatsoever ;" and he gives a

table of experiments, conducted on this apparatus, showing- that the

promised results were exceeded. Such excess was in
the proportion of -——-—— = -075 ; not a very important excess, and
by no means indicating- that the ventilator is g-ood; for if a machine

capable of producing* 100 horse-power be applied to produce twenty

horse-power, it is not astonishing* that a result of twenty-one horsepower

should be attained. Still, M. Lemielle must congratulate himself on the

result, having undertaken the extraction of twenty cubic yards of air, "

under any depression whatsoever;" for it might have happened that the

conditions were not possible of fulfilment, owing to the resistances of the

mine over which M. Lemielle had no control; and if these had been such as to

require a depression of eight or ten inches of water to admit of twenty

cubic yards of air circulating in the workings, it is quite probable that

the ventilator would have failed to do the work. The consideration of the

motive power required, which M. Lemielle seems entirely to negiect, is a

point which must not escape notice, for it is absurd to expect the

fulfilment of impossible conditions.
The guarantee that M. Lemielle offers is, in fact, such a case, when he

undertakes in any particular mine to furnish a given volume of air at a

depression which is not fixed. M. Lemielle leads some who do not carefully

study the question to believe that his ventilator in one revolution must

displace a volume of air equal to its capacity; and he argues, " how can the

depression to be produced interfere with this result ?
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The motive force must be greater as the depression increases, but do I not

apply a force in excess of all possible requirements ?—and it is simply a

question of power applied."
But this question of power applied is a serious one. First, inasmuch as it

is important not to apply engines of greater power than required, and

second, it is necessary to know that the power applied is sufficient for all

requirements, which, according* to M. Lemielle, there are no means of

fixing; and then it is quite a mistake to take for granted that his

ventilator extracts a volume of air from the mine equal to its capacity at

each revolution. So contrary is this to the actual result, that it will be

shortly proved that this volume varies for each different mine, or for the

same mine if the current is more or less obstructed. And though an engine a

hundred times above the power required were used, on the supposition that

the volume of air displaced is equal to the capacity of the ventilator, or

even a certain fraction of its capacity, it will only be by chance that the

results guaranteed will be obtained.
Enough has now been said upon the question of unreasonable guarantees. As to

the merit which M. Lemielle attributes to himself of leading the way in

mechanical ventilation, I can point to the establishment of the Guibal

ventilator since 1860, and the production by it of large volumes and

depressions; and therefore, in deciding* to increase the dimensions of his

ventilator in 1863, he was only following the steps of others, with the

object of removing the discredit into which his ventilator had fallen.
PARAGRAPH VI—VENTILATOR ERECTED AT THE MINE OF THE NORD DU BOIS DE BOUSSU.
M. Lemielle records the fact of the ventilation of the Alliance Pit being

insufficient, and the Public Administration of Mines requiring a quantity of

forty cubic yards per secondunder a depression of'3*142"', the engineer of

the mine did not know how to attain such a result, as no apparatus of such

power mas in use. He applied to If. Gonot, the head, engineer of the Public

Administration, to indicate the system which should be adopted, and this

gentleman, after minute enquiry and experiments on the ventilators in use,

came to the conclusion that the Lemielle was the only one which could fulfil

the desired conditions, and he advised its adoption.
This may be in the main correct, and no doubt M. Gonot may have decided to

give the preference to Lemielle''s ventilator for the ventilation of the

Alliance Pit, but it is not true that such preference was given Vol.

XVI.-1807.

K
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after minute enquiry and experiments on all the apparatus in tise. Indeed,

had he taken the trouble to make enquiry and experiments, he would easily

have learnt that several Guihal ventilators were in use which exceeded the

power required for the Alliance Pit. For instance, at the mines of Crachet

and Picquery in the same district as the Nord du Bois de Boussu, and placed

under the direction of the same financial company, where a current of 83ms

per second had been obtained by using- the full power of the ventilator• and

again at the mine of Monceau Fontajne, where a working depression of 215 m/m

had been regularly maintained.
M. Gonot was led to the recommendation of the Lemielle ventilator by the

preconceived idea that ventilators, acting on the centrifugal force

principle, were incapable of producing large depressions, an opinion held at

that time by many engineers, who drew their conclusions from the unimportant

results of ancient apparatus of this kind, and from a misconception of the

mechanical principles involved in this system of action. Having recorded

these facts, M. Lemielle gives two series of experiments upon the Alliance

Pit ventilator, indicating only the depressions and volume of air obtained

at different speeds.
An omission occurs here again, which, from its repetition, seems

intentional. No details are given from which the useful mechanical effect

can be estimated• in other words, the relation of power applied and

economised is not mentioned. But if it was an unimportant matter to utilise

only 20 or 25 per cent, of the motive power when the ventilation of mines

only required a few horse-power, it is no longer so now, when machinery of

more than 100 horse-power is required.
Fortunately, the Commission, whose report on this Lemielle ventilator is

quoted by M. Lemielle, mentions its dimensions, and as another Commission,

experimenting on the same apparatus, has measured the motive power applied,

the calculations of its useful effect can be made, and the discussion of the

merits of this ventilator can be conducted on precise facts.
The first step is to find the capacity of the Alliance ventilator, and from

it the volume generated per revolution. The chamber of this apparatus is

7-10m diameter by 5m high. Its interior drum is a hexagon of 5m outside

diameter, and the vanes are 2-50m broad. The centre of this drum is "835m

distant from the centre of the chamber.
The accompanying sketch (Plate XVI.), to J^th scale, shows by a dark shade

the space in which the air from the mine is confined between two vanes, and

is conveyed to the exterior¦. also, by a light shade the space
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which is filled with air from the exterior and re-enters the mine behind

each vane. To ascertain the volume of air in these spaces, the cubical

contents might be mathematically calculated, but it would be a complicated

process. A simpler mode is to use a good " planimetre," which I have done.
This instrument gives, for the dark surface 35050m/ma, and for the light

surface 8014m/m3. As the sketch is to ^th scale, these surfaces must be

multiplied by 202 = 400, yielding- 14-0200m2 and 3-2056m2 respectively. Each

of these surfaces being the base of a solid 5m high, it follows that the

capacities are 70T00ms and 16*028m8 respectively. Now, as the apparatus

makes one revolution, these capacities are reproduced three times, .*, the

volume of air discharged = 210'300mn, and the volume of air re-entering =

48-081m3, and .*. the volume actually displaced or the theoretical volume =

162,216m8.
This result will enable me to complete the table furnished by M. Lemielle,

by contrasting with each result the volume generated by the apparatus.
In the first experiment the apparatus made five revolutions per
minute. The volume generated per second, or Ve of the formula, was
162-216 x 5
— nr.------= 13-528m3. The actual volume tested by gauges was
11466m3, hence a re-entry into the apparatus of 13-528 — 11*460 =
2'062m8 per second. The ventilator operates .*. in this experiment on
13-528 to yield only 11466, and a yield of air is obtained of*
11-466
^o,K0n = 84 °/0. Similar calculations for the other experiments give
the following results :—
Bevolutions of Volume generated Useful

Volume, or Actual Per Contage of Air
Apparatus per Minute. per Second. Volume

extracted per Second. yielded.
5 13-528 m« 11-466 m3

84°/0
10 27*036 m» 25-202>3

93%
145 39-231 m» 32-546 m"

83%
18 48-701 m3 45-217 m3

92%
The yield of air varies, therefore, from 83 % to 93 % in these experiments,

whereas theory indicates that it should be constant for the same apparatus

on the same mine. This requires explanation, and it is thus. The

measurement of the air-current at the Alliance Pit was
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conducted in a passage 6m x 8m section, which connects the pit and the

ventilator; that is, in a position where the current is suddenly bent at a

right angle, and is, therefore, subject to very varying- velocities at

various points. Now the Commission referred to mentions that they only

placed the anemometer at three points of this passage, and in the last

experiment at only two. Under such conditions accuracy is impossible,

especially with high velocities.
Another Commission conducted experiments much more complete and accurate on

this same ventilator, especially as regards the measure- • ment of the

air-current, for the anemometer was placed by them at ten different points,

and several observations taken at each. The results obtained on the 10th

June, 1866, were:—
Ventilator at 10*125 revolutions per minute;
Volume of air, 20-640m3;
Average depression, 4075m/m.
Therefore, the volume generated in a second was 16S'216 * 10'125 =
60
27*597ms, and the air-current produced only 20'646m3.
The volume re-entering is thus 6-951m3 and the yield of air is 20-646 _

„r 0/ 27-597 lo'
This result must be more accurate than the preceding one, for it
was found that at the lower part of the passage there were layers of air
not only stagnant but at some points having an inward velocity, a
circumstance which could not be noted by the first commission because
they only operated at three points of the gallery. And the proof that
the first experiments were not carefully conducted is found in the dif-
v3 ferent values of -j- which ought to be the same. The following table
shows these values :—
At 5 revolutions -J- =11'46— = 13-14. h 10
10 „ = 25'2021 = 12-70.
ou
14-5 „ = 3295g463 = 11-15.
18 „ - ^L = 11-87.
According to the report of the second Commission, this value was 20-6463

l075~= 1(HG-
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The results of the second Commission are clearly much more reliable than

those of the first, especially as the second Commission took diagrams to

test the power applied in the steam cylinder. I shall, therefore, adopt

their figures, the more so, as M. Lemielle was present on the occasion of

the second experiments.
The before-mentioned yield of air enables the calculation of the useful

effect of the apparatus; for to obtain in kilogrammetres the work

represented by a volume of air at a given depression, this volume, expressed

in cubic metres, is multiplied by the height of the column of water in

millimetres, measuring the depression; and as the depression is the same,

the relation between the actual air-current and the volume of air generated

expresses the result.
At five revolutions, for instance, the- useful effect would be
11'4^'"3 x |^r = 84"8 %> tllat is< if tlle ventilator had 100 horse-13"528m3

x 10m/m
power applied to it, only 84-8 are utilized. But the force produced in the

cylinder is not entirely transmitted to the ventilator, a portion is

absorbed. If the power transmitted to the ventilator be known, as we know

what per centage of it the ventilator utilizes, the product of these two

quantities would show the power utilized, or as it is called the coefficient

of useful effect of the steam introduced into the cylinder. The second

Commission proved this to be 48-3 °/0, when the yield of air-current was, as

above shown, 75 %. Therefore, if x represents the fraction of the power of

the engine transmitted to the ventilator 75 x x =
-483 *483 .'. x = -7~-— = *65, so that in this experiment out of 100

horsepower of steam applied in the cylinder, only 65 were transmitted to the

ventilator; and this loss of 35 °/0 is not the result of the imperfection of

the steam engine, but of the construction of the ventilator, which is very

complicated, and entails a serious absorption of power even when the oiling

of the bearings is attended to most carefully, the neglect of which is still

more serious. The Alliance ventilator .\ has 65 °/0 of the power applied to

it to utilize, and as it only utilizes 75 %, its useful effect is reduced to

48'3 %, as before stated. This useful effect remains constant at all

velocities of the apparatus; for, the yield of air, as has been seen,

remains the same, and the coefficient of the engine may be considered as

invariable. But if the yield of air were varied, and instead of being 75 %

it was only 50 %, the useful effect would fall from 48'3 % to '75 X '50 =

37-5 °/0. Now, in order to diminish the yield of air it is only necessary to

increase the resistances of the current as was done
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in the case of the Bayemont ventilator, and if Messrs. Plumat and Canelle

had tested the current when, at seventeen revolutions per minute, they

obtained 220 m/m depression, their experiment would have confirmed this

statement. But no experiments are required to corroborate such simple

matters. Suppose a Lemielle ventilator acting' upon a closed mine, it is

clear that it can extract no air from it—still, a certain speed can be given

to the ventilator which will absorb a large amount of power ; it is evident,

under such circumstances, that the yield of air will be nil, and that the

product of this result zero, with the coefficient of the engine, which is

always *65, will be also nil, so that much power might be recpiired to drive

the apparatus and no useful effect be produced by it; the conclusion from

which is that the Lemielle apparatus will work less advantageously on a mine

as the depression increases, for I have shown that the yield of air

decreases as the depression increases—the contrary is affirmed by M.

Lemielle. One more remark of M. Lemielle's requires attention, viz., his

protest against experiments on ventilators in which air has been taken at

the surface instead of being drawn through the mine. The experiments to

which he alludes are those of two engineers, MM. Gille and Franeau (which

are recorded in the Transactions of this Institute*), on the Guibal

ventilator at Crachet and Picquery, and which were published with the object

of explaining the system of the Guibal ventilator, and of proving- its

efficiency in each detail of its arrangement, also to show its points of

difference from previous ventilators which were more or less anala^ous.
The mine of Picquery being very unfavourably circumstanced in the matter of

ventilation, only yielding 23751m3 per second under 85m/m depression, it was

necessary, in order to act upon large volumes without increasing- the

depression, to facilitate the access of air by opening- more direct

communications to the mine, and this was done at the surface; but these

communications by no means destroyed the depression, as M. Lemielle states,

for when the volume reached 82-900ms, the depression in the chamber through

which the air passed into the apparatus was still 51m/m, which is duly

recorded with the volume in the original notice of these experiments.
It is to be regretted that M. Lemielle should observe with so much

prejudice, for, as in the same page of M. Ponson s work from which he

quotes, he does not notice that the orifices of the pits have been

contracted in the cases where the reduction of the volumes of air seems to

him
* Vol. XVI.
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so startling, so in the same phrase of this pamphlet, he does not see the

depression under which the large volume of 88m3 was obtained. Whatever may

be the object in refusing to see facts as they are, it will be prudent not

to conduct a similar experiment on the ventilator of the Nord du Bois de

Boussu as this on the Guibal ventilator at Picquery, which is criticised so

strongly, for the result will be that under the depression of «31m/m, the

volume re-entering the apparatus per second will be
V'r = 6-951m3 J^ = 6-951m3 x 1-12 = 7788m3 ^4075
Therefore, to extract 83m3, 83m3 + 7788 = 90788m3 per second
must be generated, and as the capacity of the ventilator of the Alliance
Pit is lG2*336m3 per revolution, it would have to make —-,,„- = '56
revolutions per second, or *56 x 00 = 33'6 revolutions per minute; and, as

will be seen hereafter, there is every reason for believing that, at such a

speed, the apparatus would not work an hour without breaking-itself to

pieces.
PARAGRAPH VII.—VENTILATOR OF THE PIT TURENNE AT DENAIN, COMPANY OP THE

ANZIN MINES.
This ventilator supplied to the Anzin Company is expected to produce at

twenty revolutions per minute a current of sixty cubic yards per second,

whatever may be the depression. This peculiarity of guaranteeing a given

volume of air, independently of the depression, is again conspicuous. M.

Lemielle knows, nevertheless, that the force required to produce a current

varies with the depression under which this current is produced, for in the

preceding paragraph, he shows that 53'32 cubic yards at a depression -039"

only require two-thirds of a horse-power, whilst 53-32 at a depression 5-90"

require eighty horse-power. To be logical, therefore, if an apparatus is

wanted equal to the extraction of 53-32 cubic yards at a depression of

0'39", he should supply an engine of eighty horse-power, since the

depression being unlimited, it may be quite necessary to have 5'90", and

thus this force would be required. Indeed, there is no reason for stopping

at 5'90", and at eighty horse-power, but any greater power might be

demanded.
The neglect of the consideration of the force required to drive the

ventilator leads M. Lemielle into great errors; so, for this Turenne

Ventilator, he says he will extract even 93'32m8 by a little increase of the

speed.
This little increase must certainly be one-half more, for clearly it
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must be at least proportional to the volume extracted j and not looking at

the additional power required, he speaks as of a small item of the increase

from sixty cubic yards to ninety-three. To produce a small increase of a

ventilating current, however, as is well known, involves a considerable

additional power. And this increase from sixty to ninety-three cubic yards,

will require a power applied of 3-724 times the power expended to produce

sixty, viz., 933: GO3.
And if the expectations of M. Lemielle in this respect are not realised, no

doubt some fault in construction will be blamed for the non-performance of

work, which it was impossible to realise. I regret to have to call attention

so often to similar false ideas, but as they constantly recur, and may

mislead others, they must be exposed.
M. Lemielle, in one of his deductions, remarks, that because the Anzin

Company have already three Guibal ventilators, and have adopted a Lemielle

for the Turenne Pit, instead of putting up a fourth Guibal, the Company have

no great confidence in the Guibal system. In this case, the Guibal

ventilator was offered to the Anzin Company to be fixed alongside of the

Lemielle, at the Turenne Pit; and it was proposed that the one which should

be declared inferior, should be at the disposal of the Anzin Company gratis.

I regret that private details compel me to be silent on the reasons why this

company had recourse to Lemielle's apparatus for the Turenne Pit, after

having replaced most successfully the only Lemielle they had, by a Guibal,

at the Verger Pit. But I may remark that it is one thing' to give a

preference to one of two apparatus in competition, and it is another to do

away with a ventilator in operation, especially when the wisdom of the

substitution has been confirmed by several years of regular and satisfactory

working; whilst the preference, of which M. Lemielle boasts, has still to

earn its justification. It is certainly not a step towards this

justification that a serious breakage should occur about two months ago,

which has entailed a stoppage of this ventilator for about six weeks; but

this is one of the many confirmations of the liability to derangement which

has already been commented upon.
PARAGRAPH VIII.—ADVANTAGES OBTAINED FROM A MECHANICAL POINT OF VIEW.
I have had occasion already to state that the new ventilator of M. Lemielle

is only the original one established upon a larger scale, and if I have not

hitherto called attention to the important bearings of this increased size

of the apparatus, it is because I contemplated the discus-
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sion of this paragraph. The following is an extract:—"It might be

apprehended that my ventilator, when constructed of large dimensions, is

less strong than formerly, but it is precisely the contrary that takes

•place; a fact easily perceptible, because its parts working more slowly,

offer the best requirements for duration.''''
M. Lemielle foresees the objection which common sense must make to the

increased dimensions of his ventilator, and he is right in doing so, for the

original apparatus possessed so little strength of structure, or safety in

working-, that whoever has seen it at work could not but anticipate an

increased number of accidents from the same system on a larger scale. This

natural fear had to be dissipated, and the only argument advanced by M.

Lemielle in favour of the strength of his larger apparatus is the slower

speed of working. Not only is there no value in this argument, but in

stipulating a less speed for the longer duration of his ventilator, M.

Lemielle virtually admits the inference, that the greater the speed of the

ventilator, the more liability to breakage, which is, indeed, the case; but

it would scarcely have been admitted if the exigency of his position had not

disclosed it.
It is useless for M. Lemielle to try to urge that, the vanes of his

apparatus having their surface doubled, and being subject to double the

force, the pressure of air remaining constant, the force will not remain

double when the speed of the apparatus is only one-half as great. To raise a

weight of 200 kilos., at a speed of lm per second, involves no more work

than to raise 100 kilos, at a speed of 2m per second. Does the conclusion,

however, hold, that the cord which carries the first weight has no more load

upon it than that which carries the second ? It is so palpable an error,

that it needs no further comment, and the objection which it is attempted to

meet remains in all its force.
As to the example of the Alliance ventilator, quoted as not needing any

repairs since the 10th June, 1865,1 refer to the report of the Director of

this mine, M. Plumat, for the true facts.
This apparatus broke down the 6th May, 1866, during an experiment conducted

by the second Commission, to which I have already referred. And I think I

can explain, from the circumstances of the case, the reason of the accident

which M. Plumat says he cannot understand, but the repetition of which he

must consider as not unlikely, having made provision of the working parts in

reserve which were in this instance damaged. The Alliance ventilator was

supplied to extract 30m3 of air per second, at a depression of 80m/m, with a

speed of fifteen revolutions per minute. The trial, therefore, had to take

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speed. But at 14-5 revolutions the depression was 86ra/m, and at 15-5

revolutions it was 100m/m; the ventilator was worked at a speed between

these two limits, as the precise fifteen revolutions could not be

maintained. The testing- operations requiring- special arrangements, and at

various points of the ventilator, occupied four or five hours, when suddenly

a crack was heard, and the apparatus came to a standstill; it was broken.

Several rods, connecting the vanes to the central shaft, were bent or

broken, and one of the vanes was shattered. As this apparatus had made

seventeen revolutions, under a depression of 220m/m, in previous

experiments, it is evident that its working parts should not have yielded at

a speed and depression so much less, except some unusual circumstance had

occurred This circumstance was no other than the continuous working on the

day of the accident. The apparatus having worked four or five hours, and

being subjected to a thorough trial, the collars round the cranked shaft

became heated, and by their resistance to the motion gave rise to the

bending of the rods which guide the vanes, and one of them so bent struck

the side of the chamber and broke. Whether this be the precise explanation

or not, it is clear that the apparatus is liable to breakage, even when it

is working at a lower speed and producing a less depression than it had

attained before, which proves that the breakage does not depend simply on

the excessive work put upon it, but denotes a total absence of safety. I may

cite in addition to the accident at the Nord de Bois de Boussu, that at the

Turenne Pit of Anzin, the circumstances of which are well known in Belgium,

and which have hitherto prevented the regular working of this ventilator

upon the mine.
If my information is correct, a third Lemielle, recently erected at the Mine

des Produits, has met the same fate. Pacts, therefore, combine to show, that

this system of ventilation loses stability of structure in proportion as its

dimensions are increased; and a study of its mechanical details cannot lead

to any other expectation.
Among the mechanical advantages of the system, M. Lemielle instances the use

of expansion of the steam, facilitated by the slow speed at which the

ventilator works. The result of using expansion in an engine is to make the

work variable. Now to meet a uniform resistance, like that arising from a

ventilating current, it is indispensable to make the machinery

self-regulating; and, as the action of regulating masses varies as the

square of their velocity, I do not see how the Lemielle ventilators, the

different parts of which are intended to regulate the power of the engine,

should be more fitted to the use of expansion of
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the steam at a slow than at a high speed. It is, however, another

peculiar Lemielle theory, to which I merely draw attention.
Finally, the last, but not the least, mechanical advantage attributed to the

ventilator, is that: " As the useful effect of the old apparatus was proved

to be 80 °/0 to 90 °/0, it is yet superior in the apparatus of large

dimensions." I need not recall the facts and calculations which I have

brought forward to show the radical exaggeration of this statement, while

the assumption that a machine which yields 90 °/0 of useful effect can be

improved is rather too far a-head of even modern progress, and would require

mechanical science in a state of nearly absolute perfection.
The useful effect of 80 to 90 °/0, of which M. Lemielle speaks, and which I

have called the "yield of air," may actually reach this value in special

cases; but it is very inferior to it when the depression increases— contrary

to the theory of M. Lemielle. If, therefore, the new apparatus are intended

for great depressions, they will not furnish a larger but a smaller yield of

air. Indeed, instead of their large dimensions tending to increase the yield

of air they only tend to decrease it, for it is dependent on the sources of

leakage, and these increase proportionally to the square of the diameter of

the ventilator. Further, the useful effect of a machine is not a matter of

assertion but of proof, either by demonstration upon mechanical principles

or by actual experiments. Only in this way can the value of M. Lemielle's

statements be appreciated.
PARAGRAPH IX.—RESULTS. Like much of the matter already discussed, there is

in the recapitulation of the merits of the Lemielle system, assertion only,

not proof. But the assertions are slightly modified, for instance,

though it is asserted, that this ventilator answers all the requirements of

modern ventilation, it is no longer to the exclusion of every other system.

It is further stated that apparatus can be supplied capable of extracting

from forty to one hundred and thirty-three cubic yards of air per second,

under the depression requisite for such ventilation. This is at last a

reasonable proposal, and only requires the adoption of suitable proportions

in a machine to carry out; but it is not sufficient simply for a thing- to

be possible, it must for practical working be advantageous; and so M.

Lemielle concludes his pamphlet by offering the owners of mines a guarantee

double of that which has ever been offered before, both as to quantity of

air and duration of the ventilator. Upon the facts which are submitted to

you, the value of such guarantee can be
NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEERS.
GENERAL MEETING, THURSDAY, MARCH 7, 1867, IN THE ROOMS
OF THE INSTITUTE, NEVILLE HALL, WESTGATE STREET,
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
EDW. POTTER, Esq., Vice-President of the Institute, in the Chair.
After the reading- of the minutes of the Council the following- new members

were elected, viz.:—Mr. Joshua Cowlishaw, 74, Osmaston Street, Derby; Mr.

Arthur Beanlands, Durham University; Mr. H. Nelson Smith, Manchester; Mr. J.

C. Broadbent, Eochdale; M. Jules Henau, Valenciennes; Mr. E. L. Wadding-ton,

Burnley; Mr. Thomas Ackroyd, Birkinshaw, near Leeds; Mr. W. H. Stephenson,

Summerhill Grove, Newcastle; Mr. S. D. Croudace, Willington, Durham; and Mr.

Thos. Bell, jun., Usworth Hall. Mr. Fred. Verner, Cowpen Colliery, Blyth;

Mr. Henry White, Harton Colliery; and Mr. Wm. Aubery, jun., were elected

graduates.
BROADBENT'S PATENT SAFETY-CAGE. Mr. Daglish said, when he read his paper on

Broadbent's safety-cage it was simply with the view of bringing the matter

before the Institute. The patentee was now himself a member, and being

present, he could make any remarks he thought necessary.
Mr. Broadbent said, he came there to listen to any statements that might be

made by g-entlemen to whom his apparatus had been supplied. They might speak

either in testimony of its value or the contrary. He was prepared to answer

any questions. He had submitted a model, and his agent was here and would be

glad to submit it to them again.
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Mr. Daglish said, there were several gentlemen who were making arrangements

to apply the apparatus, and they would he ahle to say more ahout it when

they had fitted it up. He did not know of any pit in the neighbourhood that

had got it in operation yet.
The discussion, at the suggestion of Mr. Broadbent, was accordingly
postponed.
ON THE CONVEYANCE OF COAL UNDERGROUND. Mr. Daglish's paper on this subject

next came on for discussion. Mr. Berkley said, he wished to make some

remarks in reference to what Mr. Daglish had said, in alluding to the paper

written by Mr. Green-well and himself. Mr. Daglish said, that at page 86,

Vol. XV. of the Transactions, the writers had shown a pressure of steam "

equal to 116 horse-power." He thought that Mr. Daglish was wrong.

It was unfair to read part of a paper without reading the context. If he

might go on to read the next paragraph, after the writers account for

forty per cent, of the power, they say, no deduction being made for the

friction of the engine and resistance of the atmosphere; if, however, they

make the usual deduction of one-third from the estimated power, they reduce

it from 3,826,468 lbs. to 2,550,979 lbs., moved one foot per minute, or from

116 horse-power to 77 horse-power effective. He took it that the meaning

of that deduction, on account of friction, included the friction of the

steam passing into the cylinder. Then, Mr. Daglish said, the power was

exerted throughout the whole route. He (Mr. B.) could not find anything

in the paper that warranted such an assertion. The experiment on which the

amount of resistance was calculated was over a run of 420 yards. In one

part of the route the brake had to be applied to prevent the tubs

over-running the hauling rope. The object of the writers, in giving the

statement in the manner they had done, was to enable any person to try a

similar experiment on any engine plane without going to extra cost for

indicating instruments, or spending any length of time in making it. The

best reason the writers could give for going into the subject in this

practical way would be by Mr. Daglish describing the instruments he used,

and the modus operandi in taking the pressure on the pistons of the engine.

Of course, they were required, in calculating the power of an engine for a

plane of this kind, to take the heaviest gradient it was expected to have to

overcome. Then, Mr. Daglish noticed the power required to drag the

ropes. He made it out to be twenty-four or twenty-five horse-power. A

very great deal ol that power was due to the brake, put on the tail-drum, to

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any over-running of the rope. That power, applied to the tail-rope drum,

might be considered a constant power. It was very seldom they required more;

and the greater the distance, the less resistance was required to keep the

tail steady. The power required to turn the ropes and drums could only be

ascertained by putting both drums into gear. He would like to have tried

this experiment himself, but he had not had time. That would give more

accurately, he thought, the power the engine had to exert in turning the

drums and the rope. The simple idea of Mr. Greenwell and himself, in making

these experiments, was that any person might try the same on any other

engine, and ascertain how they agreed with theirs, without going to any

extra expense to test the accuracy of pressure on the pistons, as Mr.

Daglish had given it.
Mr. Daglish said, as Mr. Berkley's observations would probably be printed,

he would wait till the adjourned discussion before he replied; but he could

not say he agreed with these observations.
Mr. Steavenson said, if Mr. Daglish would take into consideration the late

Mr. Wood's experiments, given in Vol. III. of the Transactions, at page 286,

he would find that Mr. Wood arrived at the conclusion that a moving power of

-fa was sufficient to draw the rope. He says, "taking the aggregate result

of these experiments, we find the total moving power of the four experiments

to be 1376 lbs., the total weight of the rope 18,806 lbs., making the moving

power equal to y^.-g- part of the weight of the rope; and the weight of the

sheaves being 19,911 lbs., the moving power is equal to the TL.¥ part of

their weight; and the weight of the rope and sheaves together being 38,707

lbs., and the moving power 1376 lbs., equal -£-$. It appears, therefore,

that when the moving power is equal to ^ part of the weight, it will drag

the rope over sheaves and rollers, similar to those used in the experiments,

at an average speed of about five miles an hour." These were experiments

which happen to have been conducted very carefully, and he did not see any

reason why they should not be correct.
Mr. Daglish said, Mr. Steavenson referred to that very valuable paper which

was read by their late President, Mr. Wood, which embodied almost all they

knew on the subject. His were simply continuations of these experiments,

applying the indicator as a special arrangement. Suppose an engine plane 500

yards long; the same inclination would not take a rope out if you extended

it to 2000 yards. What was true of 500 yards would not be true for 2000.
Mr. Steavenson-—Suppose the inclination is one in twenty-eight,
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with thirty-five tubs a plane may be worked nearly 2000 yards in
length.
Mr. Daglish, he must refer Mr. Steavenson to the work he had quoted from,

and he would rather Mr. Steavenson would illustrate his views by some

experiments of his own.
Mr. Berkley said, the deductions given by Mr. Greenwell and himself in their

experiments were taken from Mr. Wood's paper.
Mr. Morrison wished to ask Mr. Daglish, in reference to the power of the

engine applied to the indicator, whether it was by levers or
pulleys ?•
Mr. Daglish said, it was taken by levers. It was not by pulleys j
he had not used pulleys in these experiments.
Mr. Berkley said, he had asked Mr. Dagiish the description oi
instruments he used.
Mr. Daglish said, he used three indicators—Eichards', McNaugt's,
and Hopkinson's.
Mr. Berkley—State how you applied them—with two or three engines—whether on

the cylinder itself or on the pipe adjoining the cylinder, and with a

throttle valve ?
Mr. Daglish—Fixed on pipes connected with the top and bottom
of the cylinder.
Mr. Berkley—You did not take the amount of the back pressure ?
Mr. Daglish—Yes, of course, the diagrams show this.
Mr. Steavenson said, if these diagrams were the exact size it would be well

to state the scale.
Mr. Daglish—That was perhaps an omission. It was advisable to give the

scale; but having the figures they could always deduce their own scale. His

object was to make the large diagram as simple as possible.
Mr. James Nelson said, he had frequently obtained as much as ten pounds

variation of pressure to the square inch.
Mr. Daglish said, he never saw it so much, but, no doubt, if they ran the

engine hard enough they might have that amount. He used a short pipe. In the

various experiments made with the indicator he did not find much difference.
Mr. Nelson said, he once tried two indicators, one on the cylinder cover and

the other on the pipe. Both were Richards' indicators. It was a three-eighth

inch pipe, not a long one.
Mr. Lindsay Wood—At what distance was the indicator from the
cylinder ?
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Mr. Nelson—Direct on the cylinder end; in one instance on the centre of the

cylinder cover, and in the other on the pipe coming out of the steam passage

close to the cylinders, about six inches long.
Mr. Daglish—It was on the opposite side of the ports ?
Mr. Nelson said, yes, on the same side; one was placed in the passage.
Mr. Daglish—Still the connection was on the opposite side of the ports and

subject to the friction of the passage of the steam through them before it

got into the cylinder. In the instances given in this paper, if a pipe is

employed, it is fastened on the cylinder top itself; the only difference is

that on the cylinder cover there is a small piece of pipe intervening. He

had never found it more than a pound or a pound and a half variation between

the diagram given by an indicator so placed, and one placed direct on the

cylinder cover.
Mr. G. B. Forster said, the first report of the Tail-rope Committee was

expected to be ready next month, and the discussion of both subjects might

go on simultaneously. This discussion was, therefore, postponed.
MECHANICAL VENTILATION". Owing to the absence of Mr. Cochrane, the

discussion upon his paper, being " A Comparison of the Guibal and Lemielle

Systems of Mechanical Ventilation," was also postponed.
SAFETY-LAMP COMMITTEE'S REPORT.
Mr. Daglish said, as a portion of this report was read at the Manchester

meeting, he need not, therefore, read that part of it. It referred to the

supposed action of the oil in the gauze of a safety-lamp, which became

volatilized when heated to a high temperature. The Committee were convinced

that no accident could arise from that cause. They then proceeded to test

the safety-lamps in a box made for the purpose, which was represented in a

diagram at the farther end of the room. He would read the text of these

experiments without reading the table of experiments. Mr. Dagiish produced a

safety-lamp which he said had stood the test and would not pass the flame,

but whether it afforded ligiit sufficient for working by was another

question.
The report was then read.
After some conversation on the subject, an invitation was given to the

members by Mr. Lindsay Wood, to witness the experiments which were being

made at Eppleton Pit, which invitation was cordially accepted.
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UNDERGROUND CONVEYANCE IN THE CLEVELAND DISTRICT.
Mr. Cockburn read a paper on " Underground Conveyance in the Cleveland

District," with especial reference to the use of Fowler's Portable-Engine

and Clip-Pulley.
Mr. G. B. Forster said, he had one of these clip-pulleys, but it had been

only a short time in operation. It was used for a drop-staple, of thirty

fathoms, sending down one tub containing nine cwts. of coals; the weight of

tub six cwts. It could stop the tub at any position in the
staple.
Mr. Steavenson said, he had had one of these sheaves pumping at Page-Bank

Colliery for the last two or three years. The pumps are 1000 yards from the

engine, and the lift is 40 feet. During the period named it had worked

satisfactorily. The rope was put in in September, 1865, and it was only

taken off in January or February of this year. It had been going night and

day, so that the wear and tear was not very
great.
Mr. Boyd asked Mr. Cockburn what was the largest diameter of
pulley he used 1
Mr. Cockburn—Eight feet. He had two of eight feet; one was working

regularly, the other was not under way yet.
Mr. T. Douglas inquired what was the expense of these large-sized pulleys 1

He had used a pair of clip-pulleys about fifty-two inches in diameter, and

believed they cost about £40 each.
Mr. Cockburn said, he believed each pulley cost £90.
Mr. G. B. Forster—The cost of the eight feet one is £85, and the
four feet £35.
Mr. Steavenson suggested that the small wheel, as shown in one of the

diagrams, was not desirable, as it gave a double bend to the rope.
Mr. Cockburn said, he thought the same thing, and he had worked the pump a

certain time without it. He found the rope was working-satisfactorily; but

he had not worked it a sufficient length of time to decide whether it was

better with or without the small wheels.
Mr. G. B. Forster said, the object of the double bend was to keep the rope

in more clips at one time.
Mr. T. Douglas said, he had been much surprised to find so little wear and

tear in ropes. In his case a pair of five-inch pumps, placed 500 yards inbye

from the engine, forced water a height of about forty feet. The rope was

an old rope to begin with, and lasted a year and a
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half, pumping night and day during that time, and had been taken off simply

because the pumping was laid off. The engine had other work to do, but the

rope was kept continually attached, there being no necessity for putting the

clip in or out of gear, as would have been the case had drums for pumping

been attached instead.
Mr. Cockburn said, he found the portable pumps were a very great advantage.

He could stop at four o'clock in the afternoon, and run them down at the

face, and then put them on again within eight hours. He had done so

frequently.
In reply to a question as to the expense of working-,
Mr. Cockburn said, that previous to the introduction of the clip-pulleys he

did not keep an account of the actual cost of the ropes. It varied from *38

to '52. He now found it was from -22 up to *38. This was the highest he ever

found.
The Chairman—That is in pence per ton?
Mr. Lindsay Wood—Did that cost include firing- the boilers ?
Mr. Cockburn—Everything-.
Mr. Berkley—Did not you say so much per ton on the distance ?
Mr. Cockburn—On the distance travelled.
Mr. Marley—The first experiment you gave was without the clip-pulley.
Mr. Cockburn—I find the coals used by our stationary engine to be three tons

per day, at 5s. per ton; tallow, oil, and hemp, 8d.; engine-plane-man, 6s.

lOd.; enginemen and fireman, 6s. 8d.; wire-ropes and repairs, 7s. lOd. On

the portable engine the coke used was five and a half cwts. per day; wire

rope, 5s. 8d.; engineman, etc., 4s.; wear and tear of sheaves, and men

attending the plane, 8s. 7d. or *38. When in full operation, equal to *22 on

the cost.
Mr. G. B. Forster—I suppose it is quite a different boiler ?
Mr. Cockburn—-The portable engine is similar to the one I have shown. It

is fourteen horse-power, and on the same principle.
Mr. Steavenson said, he had one employed in raising the stone from the

shaft. The lift was eighteen fathoms. It was very easily packed up, and

taken away the same day. It gave off what was equal to forty horse-power,

the weight sixty cwts., cage included. The hind wheels were made into drums.
Mr. G. B. Forster—With respect to the wear and tear of the ropes, it is to

be observed on an ordinary drum, in working with a tail-rope, it is wound

tight on to the drum, and it remains so till it is unwound
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again ; but with the clip-pulley, as soon as the rope reaches the pulley,

all the strain is taken off it, except what is due to its own weight.
Mr. L. Wood said, it was liable to some objection. If you shut the clips too

close you jam your rope, and if not sufficiently close the rope is apt to

slide. It was worse to have the rope sliding on a clip-pulley than on the

ordinary sheave.
The Chairman—You can adjust your machinery to avoid that. Mr. Cockbtjrn

said, he had never known it to happen. Mr. L. Wood said, he had one working

a pump with a lift of thirty fathoms with 1600 yards of delivery pipes.

One rope worked well, but he could not get any other to do so, and he had to

do away with it. It was a heavy lift, and had to run at great speed.
In reply to a question, Mr. Wood said he was sure the heavy clip was lying

at the bottom, and it was horizontal.
Mr. Morrison—At a high speed it does not clip. Mr. Gr. B. Forster—Our tubs

go down nearly at the rate of a falling body. With great speed at thirty

fathoms it does not fail.
Mr. Marley suggested that it would be very useful if Mr. Wood would give his

observations as to the employment of clip-pulleys for pumping at a great

depth. He might state that in one of the clip-pulleys which he first

adopted, he had the same difficulty as Mr. Wood had experienced; and he was

advised by all the agents to take it out. Before doing so he sent for one of

Mr. Fowler's men, who in a quarter of an hour adjusted it, and it had never

needed adjusting since. It was still answering beautifully on a self-acting

inclined plane. He accounted for the difficulty from the fact that the

machinery was new to the men, and they had never had the adjusting screws

explained to them.
Mr. Lindsay Wood said, they had two pulleys; and when he found the clips

breaking he sent to Mr. Fowler, who sent another wheel to try, but with that

they could not get the ropes to last.
Mr. Marley said, his was an ordinary sheave. It had been working nearly

twelve months, and the adjusting screws had never been realtered. The

Chairman said, they were all much indebted to Mr. Cockburn for his paper.
The meeting then broke up
ON
UNDEKGROUND CONVEYANCE
in the
CLEVELAND DISTRICT,
WITH REMARKS ON THE ACTION OF THE CLIP-PULLEY, ETC.
By WILLIAM COCKBURN.
The subject of the present paper is one of great importance in connection

with the mining operations carried on in this country. It is at all times

essentially necessary that the underground conveyance should be as

economically conducted as the scientific principles can be arrived at which

are called into requisition in general mining operations. In no case are

those principles of cheap conveyance more needed than in the conveyance of

ironstone in the Cleveland district.
I intend to lay before you a few facts and estimates in connection with the

underground conveyance of the minerals in the district of Cleveland, and

also the adaptation of a patent clip-pulley and portable-engine, as applied

both to haulage and pumping- operations now in use at the mines of Messrs.

J. and J. W. Pease at Upleatham and Lofthouse. I also give plans and section

of clip-pulley, portable-engine, portable-pump, self-acting inclines,

engine-planes, and stationary-engine used for pumping.
The performances of horses underground have been so ably treated upon by the

late Nicholas Wood, Esq., that it is unnecessary for me to make any remarks

thereon. I will, therefore, at once proceed to show the cost of

stationary-engines now working at Upleatham mines, after which I will also

show the cost of hauling stone by Fowler's portable-engine, with patent

clip-pulley attached, and, lastly, point out the advantages of the

clip-pulley for pumping operations, self-acting inclines, and hauling

underground; and also the conveyance of power to underground working's.
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The main winning at the Upleatham Mines is worked by a stationary-engine,

with two cylinders placed horizontally, twenty inches diameter and three

feet stroke, with two drums six feet diameter, both drums being* fixed to

the shaft, and driven by a spur-wheel. The drums are put in and out of

gear alternately. This engine is only working with one drum at present,

the length of the engine-plane being nearly 700 yards, with a gradient upon

the average of 1 in 14"3. The engine is placed upon the surface. There

are three boilers five feet diameter, thirty-five feet long, two of which

are used at present; the pressure is 351bs. per square inch upon the boiler.

The distance from the boiler to the cylinder is about sixteen feet.

The exhaust steam is emitted by a pipe direct out of the house-top; the

length of the exhaust-pipe is about eighteen feet. This engine hauls a

train of thirteen tubs, each containing thirty-two cwts. of ironstone,

besides the weight of the tub, which is nine cwts. The average speed of

the tubs travelling on the engine-plane is about seven-and-a-half miles per

hour.
The quantity of work performed between November 4th, 1865, and July 12th,

1866, was 183,983 tons 4 cwts. on an average of 860 tons per day when at

work, the cost of which, per ton, was *38d., including wire-ropes, coal,

engine- and fire-man's wages, repairs and men attending
engine-plane.
Plate XV. shows the engine-plane. This engine is employed hauling
the ironstone up the incline.
The east-end of the Upleatham Mines is worked by a stationary-engine, with

two sixteen-inch cylinders, three-feet stroke, with two loose drums, each

seven feet diameter; one only working at the present time. There are three

boilers connected with this engine, two of which only are worked at one

time. This engine, like the other, is placed upon the surface, and is

hauling ironstone up an engine-plane, having an average distance of 1,100

yards, on a gradient of one in sixteen. The load is thirteen tubs, each

containing thirty-two cwts. of ironstone, and travelling at the rate of

seven-and-a-half miles per hour. The quantity worked between March 28th,

1865, and January, 1866, was 279,349 tons eight cwts., on an average of

1,170 tons per day, when at work. The cost of which per ton, was *37d.,

including wire-ropes, coals, engine- and fire-man's wages, repairs, stores,

and engine-plane men's
wages, etc., etc.
The western portion of the Upleatham Mines was worked by a Fowler's portable

double-cylinder engine, with patent clip-pulley attached, as shown on Plate

XIX., from June 9th, 1863, up to the year 1866;
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the engine has since been employed pumping water. The distance this engine

worked was 1,550 yards. The average quantity of ironstone hauled per-day, as

specified, was 750 tons, in small wagons, thirteen to the train, carrying

nearly thirty-two cwts. each, and travelling at the rate of six miles an

hour, at a cost of *38d. per ton. This could have been reduced to *22d. per

ton, had another train of wagons being attached to the engine, which would

not have incurred any extra cost, and would have increased the quantity to

1,300 tons per-day, after allowing for incidental stoppages.
In proof of this, a Fowler's portable-engine, with clip-pulley attached, as

before mentioned, is now at work at Lofthouse Mines. The actual cost of

working per-ton of twenty cwtsv is *2d., including all expenses in

connection with it.
With these statements respecting the portable-engine, I come next to the

patent clip-pulley, the description of which, given before the Institute of

Mechanical Engineers, at Birmingham, on the 4th of May, 1865, I cannot

improve upon.
" The clip-pulley consists of a series of pairs of jaws or clips, A and B as

shown on Plate XVII., hinged round the circumference of the pulley, close

together in a continuous line, forming a complete groove, in which the rope

C works. Each pair of clips in succession, as it passes round to the point

where the pressure of the rope upon the pulley commences, seizes hold of the

rope as shown on Plate XVII., and continues to grip the rope throughout the

half revolution, until reaching the point where the rope begins to leave the

pulley, the clips fall open, being relieved from the pressure of the rope.

The amount of grip is in all cases proportionate to the pull upon the rope,

so as effectually to prevent any slipping. The only provision requisite to

suit the clip-pulley for working with any size of rope, is to adjust the

width of opening of the clips to the particular diameter of the rope to be

driven, by widening or contracting the distance between the centres of

motion of each row of clips. This adjustment is effected in a very simple

and complete manner, by having the lower row of clips B centred upon a ring

D which forms the circumference of one-half the depth of the pulley, and

this ring is screwed upon the body of the pulley by a thread chased round

its entire circumference, so that by turning the ring round in either

direction the distance between the centres of the upper and lower clips is

simultaneously increased or diminished in every pair to exactly the same

extent; all of them being kept in perfect parallel positions. The ring D is

held in the desired position by the bolt E which prevents it from turning."
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a The lower clip B of each pair having a heavy overhanging lip F on the

outside, is enabled to lift the upper clip A by means of a small finger G

projecting from its inner end, and pressing upon the tail of the upper clip

so that the clips always remain open, until receiving the pressure of the

rope, and they fall open again and release the rope the moment the pressure

is withdrawn. The stop H on the upper clip coming in contact with the body

of the pulley prevents the clips from falling open too far. The action of

the clip is thus just similar to the closing of a hand upon a rope, laying

hold at once so firmly that the rope cannot slip, and retaining this hold

uniformly until the rope is released altogether by the opening of the clips,

so that all friction or surging from an imperfect hold is avoided, as well

as any shifting of the rope at the beginning and end of its contact with the

pulley, such as is inevitably the case in round or angular grooves."
" At the same time, by means of the ring D on which the lower row of clips

are centred, the hold upon the rope can be adjusted to any desired amount,

according- to the power required to be transmitted, and it can be absolutely

depended upon, when once adjusted, to continue working uniformly with the

same amount of hold."
An important practical advantage found to result from the working of this

clip-pulley, is that the rope is subjected to a continual pressure upon its

sides whilst passing round the driving pulley, thus avoiding all tendency to

the rope being flattened by the pull, as in an ordinary round bottomed

groove, where the pressure of the rope is upon the bottom of the groove

only. Also the groove in the clips being so curved as to fit the rope

closely round a considerable portion of its circumference, the pressure

preserves the form of the rope, and serves to consolidate it, by continually

closing down all protruding wires, and preventing the deterioration of the

rope by such parts passing the subsequent guiding-pulley. It may be remarked

here, that these advantages of the clip-pulley, render it especially adapted

for use in other positions where the rope is the medium of conveying power.

It is believed that the action of the clip-pulley is mechanically correct,

and that it will be found highly advantageous in transmitting power by means

of ropes.
The clip-pulleys are working at various places in England, Scotland, and

Wales. I will confine myself to those which are working immediately under my

own inspection at Upleatham Mines. As before stated in the description of

the portable-engine, a clip-pulley has been used satisfactorily in every

point, in hauling ironstone on the level with a tail-rope part of the way,

and up a gradient of one in twelve on to an incline-head, after
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which it was, and is used for pumping water a distance of 363 yards, by a

double portable five-inch pump with a clip-pulley attached vertically, the

pump-rods being connected by cranks direct from the axle of the pulley. The

distance between the clip-pulley on the engine which is placed horizontally,

and the clip-pulley on the pumps which is placed vertically is 363 yards.

The gradient being 1 in 15-66, and the engine standing seventy feet above

the level of the suction-pipe; and the perpendicular height between the

suction-pipe, and delivery-pipe being seventeen-and-a-half feet according to

Plate XVIII.
Plate XV. shows a section of the engine-plane at the main winning, also

ropes working from a clip-pulley attached to a stationary engine. (Plate

XVI.)—The engine is a common high-pressure with a twelve-inch cylinder, a

small pinion-wheel is attached to the fly-wheel shaft, which is connected

with a large wheel attached to the shaft of a five-feet clip-pulley, placed

vertically, from which the rope is taken nearly 700 yards to a portable

nine-inch pump, to which is attached a five-feet pulley. The pump-rods are

connected to the shaft by means of cranks direct from the axle of the

pulley; the distance between the two clip-pulleys is nearly 700 yards, and

the perpendicular height between the engine and the pump is 125 feet. The

gradient is 1 in 14-3, the delivery-pipe is nearly 400 yards above the pump,

and the perpendicular height the water is raised eighty-three feet. Only one

of the nine-inch pumps is working at present. The cost per day and night for

labour consists of the wages of two enginemen and two men attending to the

rope, sheaves, and pump. The quantity of stone laid dry by this engine is

equal to 1,200 tons per day, which makes the cost -25d. per ton for all

expenses connected with engine, pump, labour, and ropes.
Plate XX. is the plan and elevation of a portable double force-pump driven

by clip-pulley in the main winning.
A clip-pulley, six-feet diameter, working inside Upleatham mines, down an

incline with a gradient of 1 in 12, lowers down with ease and safety

thirteen tubs at one time, each containing above thirty-two cwts. of

ironstone, independent of the weight of the tubs (weighing about nine cwts.

each). This clip-pulley is managed by a boy fourteen years of age, who has

perfect control over the load, and can stop it in any part of the incline

desired without in the least injuring the rope, he having frequently lowered

the loaded set of thirteen tubs to the bottom of the incline without the

compensating balance of the empty set, which proves the assertion formerly

stated that it can be absolutely depended upon when once adjusted.
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A clip-pulley eight feet diameter is also used at these mines in lowering-

trucks down an incline of 1 in 11; the weight of each truck is on an average

when loaded fifteen tons. Three of these trucks compose the quantity lowered

down at one time. This clip-pulley has heen recently placed to supersede a

pair of twelve-feet drums, which have heen used at these mines nearly nine

years. The advantage to he derived from this is, that only one rope is

required instead of two, therehy diminishing the original cost of ropes, and

securing a greater uniformity in the wearing of the ropes, also a greater

security in case of a hreak of the rope, the clips holding uniformly which

is not so on a roll or drum.
From my experience in the working of clip-pulleys, I think that they are

considerably more economical than the ordinary method of drums, and are

capable of being applied to any place where a drum is or has to work. Also

for pumping purposes, where the pumps have to be carried forward as the

places progress, they cannot be superseded. The despatch with which the

portable-pump, with the clip-pulley attached, can be removed is to be highly

commended for mining operations.
Plate XXI. is a plan and elevation of a clip-pulley, applicable for

conveying power to underground workings from engines placed upon the

surface, the application of which the writer has not seen in operation, but

from the experience already acquired he is perfectly satisfied that it is

suitable for the purpose, and he intends putting it into operation the first

opportunity that presents itself.
Plate XXII. is a drawing of a thirty-horse portable-engine with clip-drum

attached vertically.
Plate XXIII. is a drawing of a five-inch double-acting* pump, driven by the

portable-engine Plate XIX. at the inclination shown on Plate XVIII.
Messrs. Bell Brothers have several of these pulleys pumping, etc., etc.,

also Messrs. Bolckow and Vaughan.
A clip-pulley four feet diameter has recently been erected, and is now

working with perfect success at Cowpen Colliery, under G. B. Forster, Esq.
Plates XV. to XXIII. illustrate Mr. Cockburn's paper on Underground

Conveyance in the Cleveland District, and on the Clip-pulley.
NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEERS.
GENERAL MEETING, SATURDAY, APRIL 6, 1867, IN THE ROOMS
OP THE INSTITUTE, NEVILLE HALL, WESTGATE STREET,
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
T. E. FORSTER, Esq., President op the Institute, in the Chair.
The minutes of the Council were read, and a second sum of £50 was, on the

recommendation of the Council, voted for the use of the Tail-rope Special

Committee, to enable them to prosecute their investigation and experiments

further.
A report was also read by the Special Committee, appointed November 3rd,

1866, to revise the duties of Secretary. The report was adopted by the

general meeting; and the sum of £25 per-annum was voted unanimously to Mr.

Doubleday on his resignment of the duties of Secretary.
The following new members were elected:—Mr. John Thompson, Norley Colliery;

Mr. D. G. Dunn, Greenfield Colliery, Hamilton, N.B.; Mr. W. France,

Upleatham; Mr. Wm. B. Harrison, Norton Hall, Cannoch, Staffordshire; Mr.

Thos. Dawson, Garmondsway Moor, near Ferryhill. Mr. Wm. Armstrong, jun.,

Londonderry Collieries, Seaham Harbour, Avas elected a graduate.
Mr. D. P. Morison read a paper on Underground Conveyance at Pelton

Colliery.-
Mr. Daglish said, this paper seemed to corroborate his own.
Mr. Morison said, one thing ought to be borne in mind. The engine had been

reduced to a common velocity; but to arrive accurately
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at results in horse-power, the diameter of the coils on the drums ought to

be taken into consideration.
Mr. Daglish said, he did not think the horse-power was the measure of

resistance so much as the diagram. Horse-power was to a great extent

boiler-power.
Mr. Morison said, the size of the diagram was increased in proportion to the

speed at which the engine was working-. Consequently, you have an increase

of the diagrams, and, on account of the speed, in case the engine has more

work to do, more steam would have to be introduced. In both cases the

diagrams are increased.
Mr. Daglish—By letting* the steam in faster, you would have much the same

diagram, but an increased number of strokes.
Mr. Morison—The reason you have a higher power is that the diameter of your

drum is increased so much; and with this additional power, instead of

seventy-six horse-power absorbed by the ropes, it only comes to something-

like forty-eigiit.
Mr. Daglish said, this was even higiier than he made it out to be in the

special instance he had given in his paper. He thought it something- under

fifty per-cent. He made forty-three horse-power out of ninety-four.
Mr. Morison—What is the leng-th of your rope ?
Mr. Daglish—2500 yards.
Mr. Morison said, as he had mentioned in his paper, no doubt the increased

friction at the curves did make a difference. On a straight line a man with

a winch at 5 to 1 could move the rope along-, the power must be lost at

these curves.
Mr. Daglish said, a member, who, he hoped, would have been here, was

possessed of a g-ood deal of valuable information on the subject. He had had

occasion to g-o into experiments, not in the same form, but bearing- upon

it—the friction of belts for turning- machinery. He believed Mr. Eamsbottom

had made extensive experiments, and found that in belts for travelling-

cranes seventy-five per cent, of the power was absorbed.
Mr. G. B. Forster said, that was rather a different question. It showed the

great loss caused by using- belts.
Mr. Daglish said, he believed that curves caused a great loss of power with

tail-ropes.
Mr. Morison said, it was on this account that in the west way, which was 600

yards shorter, the power required to move the ropes was almost the same.
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Mr. Steavenson stated, in confirmation of the results obtained by Mr.

Dagiish, as to the large per-centage of power absorbed by the machinery and

ropes when hauling tubs upon engine-planes, that he had made experiments

upon an engine with two cylinders of twenty-inches diameter and three-feet

stroke, the plane being 1,700 yards long, with two curves in it, the one

three chains and the other four chains
radius.
The diagrams were taken at a speed of forty-six revolutions per
minute; their scale being -^.
No. I., Plate XXIV.—The ends of the main- and tail-ropes were coupled

together without any tubs attached. It shows that forty-two H.P. was

required, simply to move the engine and ropes.
No. II., Plate XXIV.—This diagram was taken when hauling forty-five tubs up

a gradient of one in thirty-one, and gives the gross force applied, namely,

ninety-one H.P.
These experiments, therefore, afford as a result 53*85 per-cent. of the

power applied as effective, and 46T5 lost in friction, etc.
This agrees very closely with the figures of Mr. Dagiish (see p. 56, Vol.

XVI.); the difference in amount utilised being -5 per cent.
BY ME. DAGLISH.

ET MB. A. L. STEAVENSON.
To drag load.........94 H.P....... 91 H.P.
Ditto ropes and engine ...43 H.P....... 42 H.P.
Per-centage of force effective 54*26 ...... 53*85
Practically these results may be considered as proving the accuracy of each

other, but they are not strictly correct as to the power utilised, because

the friction of machinery running without its load is very different when

the machine has its load on, and the results are, therefore, better than

they should be, and I hope to be able, at an early date, to show what the

work done in hauling the tubs really is, taking into account their weight,

ascertained friction, and the height and speed; also, by application of a

dynamometer, to find the force passing through the rope, the remainder being

the loss in the engine.
It is also necessary to reconcile these results with the extensive

experiments conducted by the late Mr. Nicholas Wood (and referred to by me

at our last meeting-, see p. 286, Vol. III.), upon the moving power required

to drag out the rope on a plane where the inclination is sufficient to avoid

the necessity for applying a tail-rope, and by which it is proved that a

power equal to one-twenty-eighth of the weight is sufficient to drag the

rope, over sheaves and rollers, nearly 2,000 yards. There can Vol.

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be no doubt as to the accuracy of these figures; and I believe the great

loss of power will be found in properties of the tail-rope, peculiar to

itself, and in curves. Then, if we look further on in the same paper, at

page 294, we find the average performance of the Springwell engine to be

53*4 per-cent. of the pressure upon the piston; and in Mr. Nicholas Wood's

general results, page 313, he gives the efficient performance of engines on

an average, with tail-rope, 40 per-cent., and without, 50 percent. The

conclusion to be arrived at from all these experiments and results is that

there is great room for improvement, but whether by endless-chain, the

atmospheric railway, locomotive, or some principle yet to be evolved, I do

not at the present time wish to enter upon.
Mr. Greig said, he would give some information on the haulage of ropes in

steam ploughing at a future day. He had not got his experiments completed

yet.
Mr. G. B. Forster inquired if there was any increase of friction allowed for

when they put the load on to the engine.
Mr. Dagl ish said, Mr. Morison suggested five per-cent. That was not much.

There was a greater strain on the drum when it was loaded; but the rope

itself formed the great portion of the load.
The President said, they were very much indebted to Mr. Morison for his

paper. He would now call on the Tail-rope Committee to read their report.
Mr. Cochrane, as secretary of the Committee, read the following report:—
TO THE NOETH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE OP MINING ENGINEERS.
Gentlemen,—The Committee appointed on the 14th July, 1865, to report upon

the various systems of the underground haulage of coals have now the

pleasure of presenting their first Eeport.
The grant of £50, which was made to them in September, 1866, and the

purchase, by your Council, of instruments required for the investigation,

have enabled them to carry on the experiments necessary for attaining the

objects which the Institute had in view when appointing this Committee.
Of the five systems which the Committee have to report upon, they have

examined the endless-chain, and they are now engaged with the tail-rope.

They think it advisable to present their report on the endless-chain at

once, as the results are very interesting. They also present a report on one

mode of using the endless-rope.
The endless-chain system has been tested at Burnley, in Lancashire,

principally at the collieries under the direction of Mr. Waddington, where

it is carried out more largely and more perfectly than at any other

collieries ; and the Committee consider that they have among these reports

the most effective work of which this
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system is capable. It is highly satisfactory, and to many members of the

Institute will be surprising. It is a system which, in the opinion of the

Committee, answers remarkably well in conditions similar to those which

prevail in the Burnley district, and it can and no doubt will be largely

used in other coal-fields, when its merits are known.
The following appear to be some of the chief advantages of this system. The

first construction is very simple and cheap. The way need not be levelled ;

faults may be surmounted at almost any gradient. The direction can be varied

as required by the angle of the mitred or other gearing at any station. The

rails need not be so good, or so expensively laid as for high speeds. There

are no sheaves to support the chain ; hence a great saving in wear and tear.

The length of chains is only twice the length of road instead of three

times, as required for tail-ropes. The chains last twelve years, and then

work lighter " ginneys." The working of the ginneys is very simple ; there

is no waiting for sets on the main or branch roads ; tubs may be run on or

off the main line without stopping, and with no sidings. There is no waste

of power by drum-brakes, and the tubs descending help those ascending. No

idleness is possible when the ginney is going.
The line of rails and chain is so easily and quickly extended in any

direction, that putting distances are very short; in the Burnley district,

about thirty yards on an average.
The Fowler's Clip-pulley has been tested at Shireoaks: it is at present of

limited use, and at this colliery is not extensively applied. A trial on a

larger scale and of different arrangement, in the North of England, is being

made, and the Committee purpose to make further experiments. The difficulty

of adaptation to branches and curves, also to varying gradients, is an

objection to this system.
A clip-pulley for endless-chains may prove to be a desirable arrangement,

reducing friction and preventing much of the noise which occurs at each

"ginney." It has received the attention of the inventor of the clip-pulley,

and the Committee hope to give a description of it in a later report.
Your Committee regret that hitherto they have been unable to obtain

permission to test the endless-rope, as employed at Cinderhill, where a slow

speed and a double line of way are adopted, and several sets are running

simultaneously on the full and empty sides. It seems desirable that the slow

and regular delivery should be adopted in this system in preference to that

used at Shireoaks; there is much, however, to be done to accommodate this

system to an extensive underground plane, and probably it will be found that

gearing similar to that of the endless-chain, as already described, will be

required at branches to make it practically useful.
The Committee have expended up to the present time the sum of £38 9s.,

leaving a balance in hand of £11 lis. They consider that the information

which is being obtained will satisfy you as to the expediency of making a

further grant which will be necessary in order to complete the experiments.
The Committee beg to remind you that it is in consequence of the gratuitous

services of the engineer, and the facilities afforded to them at the various

collieries, that the expense falls so lightly on the Institute, and they

take the earliest opportunity of thanking Mr. G. H. Wright, who acted in

that capacity for the first
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two months, and Mr. E. Bainbridge who succeeded him, and is still working

for them. These gentlemen volunteered to carry out the experiments wherever

the Committee wished, and the Committee have only borne the actual expenses.

The attention and skill which have been devoted to the work are sufficiently

evidenced by the results which the Committee now lay before you. The

Committee also beg to record their thanks to the owners and managers of the

collieries where they have been allowed to conduct experiments. Expense and

inconvenience have no doubt been incurred by them, but every facility has

been gladly afforded, and information given in such detail as deserves the

warmest thanks of the Institute.
(Signed) WM. COCHBANE,
Hon. Sec.
Mr. G. B. Forster, assisted by Mr. E. Bainbridg-e, gave a detailed account

of the experiments., which were illustrated by diag'rams. After a brief

conversation on the subject, the President.called on Mr. J. P. Harper to

read a paper "On Harper's Improved Safety-cage Apparatus."
After reading- the paper, Mr. Harper said the invention was in course of

being patented. It was designed for ordinary iron-wire conductors, and the

principle was that of compression. It pressed not only the side, but the

whole circumference of the conductor. The effect of this was that the

conductors were preserved uninjured.
Mr. Nelson Smith produced his model of Broadbent's Patent Safety-cag-e, and

again pointed out the merits of that invention. Wherever it was used the

ropes had been found uninjured.
The President said, they were indebted to Mr. Harper, who was a member of

the Institute, for his paper. He believed that he (the President) was one of

the first that tried Fourdrinier's Safety-cage. Previous to that time it had

been the custom to examine the ropes, and now it became necessary to watch

the safety-cage. For his part he preferred looking- after the ropes. These

cages might be better than Fourdrinier's. He saw some safety-cages working-

at Lord Fitzwilliam's collieries last week. They were said to answer very

well; but they never had been called into use, and, therefore, one could not

say whether they would hold or not.
Mr. Smith said, at Titus Salts' both ropes broke, and the cage fell full

twelve inches. It was the means of saving- the lives of the men in the cage.
The meeting- then broke up.
Plate XXIV.—Diagrams to illustrate Mr. Steavenson's experiments and remarks,

p. 103.
NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEERS.
GENERAL MEETING, THURSDAY, MAY 2, 1867, IN THE ROOMS
OF THE INSTITUTE, NEVILLE HALL, WESTGATE STREET,
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
T. E. FORSTER, Esq., President of the Institute, in the Chair.
A letter was read from Mr. Ansell, requesting- that copies of his paper

should be furnished to him, which was agreed to.
Mr. Doubleday read the Report of the Committee appointed to select a site,

etc., for the proposed Memorial Hall.
After some discussion Mr. Marley proposed that the Committee he empowered to

open a negotiation for the purchase of a suitable site, subject to

confirmation by a general meeting of members.
Mr. Lishman seconded the resolution, which was carried unanimously.
The following1 new members were elected :—Mr. John Straker, West House,

Tynemouth; Mr. James Burrows, Doug-las Bank, Wig-an, Lancashire; Mr. B. P.

Bidder, Powell, Duffryn Collieries, Aberdare; Mr. W. S. Cope, mining-

eng-ineer, North Staffordshire.
THE LONG-WALL SYSTEM. A discussion then took place on Mr. Lishman's paper "

On the Long-Wall System."
The President asked Mr. Lishman if he had tried the system in workings

having- both bad and good roofs ?
Mr. Lishman said, he had only tried it in this particular locality. It had

been tried in Lancashire in very bad roofs, and it had been found to answer.
Vol. XVI.—1807.

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The President said, in his opinion they could work far more effectually by

long-wall, under a bad roof, than with a good one, because the bad roof

would fall so freely behind.
Mr. W. 0. Wood said, that in case of a bad roof, they were just as liable to

be obliged to leave small pieces of coal between the packed wall and the

coal left for the next working, as they were in ordinary pillar working.
Mr. Lishman said, yes, in rotten roofs; but, in this case, it was blue

metal, six feet thick, with overlying sandstone strata, which kept it quite

free and open. Since this paper was read he had had the percentage taken of

four days' work of 2580 tons, which produced 900 tons of best merchantable

coal, equal to thirty-four-and-a-half per-cent. of best. He had -the

long-wall system tried four nights, out of which he got a few scores. During

the four nights there were 470 tons, which produced 190 tons of best

merchantable coal, or equal to 40*4 per-cent. of best, showing an increase

of the produce of best or merchantable coal equal to 5'9 per-cent.
Mr. Marley inquired if there was any distance between the two places where

it was tried, and any difference between the strength of the coal ?
Mr. Lishman said, the four days' work was from the ordinary working, and in

the long-wall district it was pretty uniform.
The President inquired what was the length of the wall face ?
Mr. Lishman said, it was fifteen yards in width, and twenty-five yards in

length.
The President said, this was only partial long-wall. It was in a measure the

Yorkshire plan, and it was identical with the system which he had seen

pursued in Lancashire last year.
Mr. Lishman said, the cost of this plan of working came to about one-fifth

more per ton. He tried the expense of working out a pillar of coal nineteen

yards in width by thirty-three in length, to try the comparative

expenditure, and he found that the cost was one-fifth more per ton by

long-wall working than by ordinary working under the old system. To make up

for this, however, they got 420 tons more of merchantable coal out of an

acre; and, in addition to this, they would lose, on the other plan,

something like four or five per-cent. in the pillar, or 220 tons to the

acre. By the modified plan of long-wall they got it very nearly all off. On

the gross area the loss was rather more than three per-cent. on the ordinary

working. There was comparatively no loss on the long-wall system.
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The President said, he was afraid Mr. Lishman would have a loss.
Mr. Morison inquired how far the work of deputies was affected by the system

1
Mr. Lishman said, there was the ordinary deputy work. Two men managed to

keep fourteen men in the broken.
Mr. J. Bigland said, he thought that Mr. Lishman had hardly given them all

the information he might have given. First, as to the distance from the goaf

to the coal in the " bay." Next, how often he changed the chocks, and how

long the chocks stood ? Standing one day they did not get much weight; but

when they stood four or five days they got a crush. Then as to the produce,

he said the whole of the mine might be obtained, but he would like him to

say how much was obtained? In his list of advantages he said—"less shift or

dead work." He (Mr. B.) could not agree with that, and thought that when the

area of the goaf became enlarged, the labour would be increased. Mr. Lishman

should have given them some figures, to show how his results were arrived

at.
The President said, as the coals were taken away the chocks must
be moved.
Mr. Lishman said, they were moved nightly. In long-wall the money had to be

laid out earlier than under the other s}^stem for narrow work. You might

have a larger quantity, but it cost more for dead work. They heard of creeps

coming on; he did not know how Mr. Bigland found it.
Mr. Bigland—We have none.
The President—How did you take out the pillar ?
Mr. Lishman—By driving a jenkin up the side. The pillar was thirty-three

yards in length, and nineteen in width.
Mr. Cockburn inquired if Mr. Lishman's plan had been sufficiently tried ?

He thought that was the drift of Mr. Bigland's remarks.
Mr. Bigland said, the long-wall system had been tried long enough in other

collieries ; but at Newton Cap they had hardly had time to get
a crush.
The President said, he thought the trial had been too short.
Mr. Bigland said, on such an important subject they wanted a little more

information.
The President said, he had visited a colliery about twelve months ago in the

neighbourhood of Sheffield. The Barnsley bed was only four feet eight inches

in thickness. They had gateways at every eighty or one hundred yards.

They took down in these gateways six feet of stone
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and packed it on each side, and they never had any shift-work afterwards,

and they got the coals out well. Taking- the stone down cost twelve

shillings per yard at first, but not another penny after that.
Mr. Bigland said, that at Adelaide Colliery, where they worked a large

quantity of broken, they removed the whole of the pillar at once by means of

chocks. The labour of changing the chocks was considerably more than under

the ordinary system, and they lost a quantity of them. There was not only

the loss but they were destroyed in the mine. At first they thought they got

all the coal, like Mr. Lishman, but they now found they were not getting it

all. They got wide boards every twenty-two yards in the first working.
Mr. Lishman said, they had already got a surface fall, but it was not

perceptible. The farther portion (shown on the diagram) was all worked off.

They were busy with the other between the first and second boards. This was

at a depth of fifty-five fathoms, and the seam was four feet eight inches

thick. He was laying out more pit room on the same principle.
The President said, it was a subject which required great consideration, and

it was most important to the district at large. If they could get four or

five per-cent. more merchantable coal than by the old system it was a very

important thing. If they could save two hundred tons to the acre it was a

very important thing to the country.
Mr. Cockburn said, if it could be done at the same expense it was very

important.
Mr. Lishman said, he asked Mr. Dickinson last year, at Manchester, which

system was, in his opinion, the best. He replied, " If you go and see this

particular place (Clifton Hall), you will say it is the best system in the

kingdom."
The President said, Mr. Dickinson drives exploring drifts to the far side of

the royalty. At Seaton Del aval they had two miles to go, and it would not

suit to drive two miles before working coal.
Mr. Lishman said, you might lay out a district within that district.
The President remarked that three or four months hence perhaps
Mr. Lishman would enlighten them a little more on the subject, and
that he would then tell them what quantity of coals per acre and square
yard he had got.
Mr. Marley said, great credit was due to Mr. Lishman for giving them his

paper even in its present unfinished state. He hoped Mr. Big-land would

follow it up and give them the results as to his twenty-two yards pillars.

If he would go and see Mr. Lishman at the workings
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and talk with him there, as well as in the railway carriage, it might help

them to arrive at sound conclusions.
Mr. Bigland—I shall be glad to go.
Mr. Marley continued—Perhaps the crush was partly attributable to these

boards which he had got at every twenty-two yards. In answer to Mr. W. 0.

Wood's remark that there was no distinction between them and the ordinary

pillar workings, to some extent he was under a mistake. In long-wall, if

they did get it carried out, they got relieved of the pressure behind the

chocks; therefore, they did not get that pressure on the coal which they had

in the broken or pillar workings. In South Staffordshire, in 1849, he

remembered seeing the worst roof he ever saw worked in long-wall. They used

a portion of their broken timber for putting in between the chocks, so as to

keep up the same and save any portion of coal being left, as was done in the

board-and-pillar system in the jenking, so that that loss of coal was not

necessary.
Mr. Lishman said, relative to the crush, Mr. Bigland would find that the

last pack-wall had a tendency to keep the crush off the chocks. The roof

settled down upon it, and there was nothing like the crush that they

expected, because the two packed-walls operated as pillars and kept the

crush off.
Mr. Bigland said, he was not speaking without experience. He found that with

the pack-walls the chocks were crushed to some extent. He had tried them

three yards thick in a wide board.
The President said, he had seen coal worked in the ordinary way at

Brancepeth, where they did not lose more than five per-cent. Mr. Wood would

bear him out in that statement.
Mr. W. 0. Wood said, when the roof was anything like good, a very small

per-centage was lost. There might be a little "stook" left at the end of the

pillar. He observed in the plan here, that a good deal was supposed to be

lost at the end of the pillar, and also between the lifts. There was none of

that loss at Brancepeth.
Mr. Cockburn inquired if they were working in Brancepeth on the old regular

system 1
Mr. W. 0. W^ood said, yes, but it had been varied a great deal. In fourteen-

or fifteen-yard pillars they put a jenkin in the middle.
The President—That does very well where it does not matter whether the coals

are round or small.
Mr. Lishman said, he had a little experience in that district. It was a

strong post roof.
Mr. W. 0. Wood said, there was a good deal of blue metal. He had
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had pillars forty yards square, and removed them on a similar principle to

that advocated by Mr. Lishman. When they had pit room to spare that they

could work on this plan, instead of the ordinary pillars, they did so. It

was a great saving- of timber.
The President inquired if the hewers got less or more 1
Mr. Lishman said, the score prices were the same in long-wall as in pillar

working- • but the men make considerably more wages. The broken was sixpence

less than the whole.
The discussion was then adjourned.
The discussion on Mr. Cockburn's paper, " On Underground Conveyance and the

Clip-pulley," was postponed, some delay having occurred in printing the

paper. It was observed that Mr. Spencer had given notice of a motion that

papers should be printed before being read.
Mr. Marley said, as this would put more responsibility on the Council, and

involved to some extent a departure from the rule, the proposal had better

be made at the June meeting, and discussed at the annual meeting.
The President suggested that it might be well to have all their general

meetings on a Saturday, and the suggestion appeared to meet with general

approval.
BASTIER'S PATENT.
Mr. Bigland said, that some time ago Mr. Greener read a paper on Bastier's

patent chain-pump. At that time there was no pumping apparatus in the

district to which he could refer. About a month ago they had commenced one

at St. Helen's Auckland. It was raising water forty-five fathoms from the

yard-seam, and was working every day, and giving satisfaction. It was a

small one, the diameter of the pipes was three-and-a-half inches. The

cylinder was nine-inches diameter, with eighteen-inches stroke. They were

raising a hundred gallons per minute. Though small it showed the principle.

They had no engineman, and no extra fireman. The same staff kept it

going.
The President said, he had recently put a new engine at the bottom of the

pit at Seaton Delaval, to force the water to the surface, and it was pumping

at the rate of six hundred gallons a minute. It was at the depth of 112

fathoms, and they thus avoided the use of spears. The length of stroke was

four feet, and it could go forty strokes a minute. There were other engines

of the same description in use; Lord Durham had two or three working

regularly.
The meeting then broke up.
ON
HARPER'S IMPROVED SAFETY-CAGE APPARATUS
FOR THE
OBDINABF WIBE-EOPE CONDUCTOBS.
By JOHN P. HARPER.
As there have been very recently both papers and discussions on safety-cages

before the members of the Institute, I will not encroach on your time in

adverting to the different descriptions of apparatus from time to time

brought under your notice; the main features of which are well known and

understood by all connected with mining operations.
There has been, and is still, great diversity of opinion in this matter,

for, while some earnestly advocate the general adoption of safety-cages,

others are equally prejudiced against them.
Generally we are all agreed so far, that if the apparatus be not a reliable

one, in any way easily deranged, or of complicated mechanical construction,

the evil sought to be remedied is increased rather than diminished. My

safety-cage differs both in principle and detail from any that have preceded

it, and certainly stands alone in this respect, that it is specially

designed, constructed, and adapted for the ordinary wire-rope conductors.
Safety-cages have hitherto been brought out more particularly for adaption

to the wooden guides, but, as these are fast becoming superseded by the

iron-wire ones on account of their durability and cheapness —if safety-cages

are to be universally adopted, they must be made applicable to the wire-rope

conductors.
I think, indeed, that safety-cages can be used to greater advantage in

connection with the iron-wire than with the wooden guides, for, with the

wooden ones sharp-pointed or toothed instruments are usually
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brought to clutch or dig' into the conductor, and if it so happens that the

length of guide rods 0*1 which the apparatus is brought to play be rotten,

unsound, infirmly fixed, or in any way defective, the safety apparatus is of

no avail; indeed sometimes, be the rods ever so sound and in good repair, we

hear of accidents occurring-, owing- to the guide rods being- split and

ripped down by the apparatus broug-ht to bear on them.
Accidents of this description are less liable to occur with the iron-wire

guides. I have latterly devoted a considerable time in experimenting- upon

them, and have found that it would not do to employ an instrument with a

sharp point, a toothed or uneven surface, to bear on the conductors, for, as

the circumference of a wire-rope is uneven, they would cut and injure the

more prominent parts.
The safety-cag-e, which I now desire to call your attention to, answers

beyond my most sang-uine expectations, acting- effectually without damaging-

or depreciating- in the least the wire conductors, of whatever description

they may be. The apparatus is extremely simple, substantial, inexpensive in

its construction, is not easily derang-ed, and can be applied to cag-es and

hoists, of whatever description or size, whether conducted at the ends,

corners, or sides, and carrying- any weight. The principle by which the

apparatus, on the severance of the winding--rope from the cage, is brought

to bear on the conductors is by compression j and its operation is (of its

own accord) to bring the cage to an immediate stand by means of catches or

compressors which fasten on, encircle, and compress not only the sides but

the whole circumference of the conductor. When the winding-rope is

re-adjusted by the tension of the rope, the compressors spontaneously

release their grasp of the conductors, and the whole is ag-ain in working-

order.
The general features of the cage will be readily seen by referring to the

working models, which will also admit of being experimented upon (see

annexed drawing of model No. 2, Plate XXV.). As the catches, or more

properly the compressors, are of very peculiar shape, I have wooden models

to show their general construction, [a model was handed round for

inspection] and also detailed drawing-s of them (Plates XXVL, % XXVII., and

XXVIII.), showing their positions when out of play, and held from the guides

by the tension of the rope, the position they assume when first brought into

play, and the iron wire-guide in extreme compression. This will, of course,

vary in proportion to the weight on the cage at the time they are brought

into requisition.
Model Xo. 1, the smaller of the two, is one-fourth the full size of a
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description of cage used at small collieries, ironstone and lead mines,

where one wag-on at a time only is drawn, and conducted on each side with

the ordinary wire-rope guides. No. 2 model, the larger one, is a design

one-sixth the full size, for douhle cages in a thirteen-feet shaft, fitted

with wire-rope conductors, each cage having two, three, or four guides as

may he required, and single or double tiered to carry either two or four

wagons. I have chosen these two forms of cages to show that the apparatus

can he applied successfully to cages of any description, and carrying any

weight.
Both cages, although varying slightly in detail, are precisely similar in

principle (for this reason a drawing of No. 2 model, Plate XXV., only is

annexed). On the small cage, model No. 1> the apparatus is attached to the

sides of the cage, and is brought to bear simultaneously on both conductors.
On the large rectangular cage (model No. 2, see Plate XXV.), though

conducted by four guides, the apparatus is brought to bear on two only, that

is, across the corners. The compressors, which are made of malleable iron

and case-hardened (lettered A on Plate XXVITI.), are of peculiar

construction (see detailed drawing, Plate XXVII.), made in plan, in a

fork-like shape, and of any proportionate elevational depth. They work on

each side of the conductors on axles, B, attached to the cage, and when not

in play are held by the tension of the winding-rope at an acute angle; and,

when brought into play, as presently explained, slide into each other, and

encircle the conductor, assuming a nearly horizontal position, and forming,

both in plan and elevation, a circular hole the full depth of the

compressors, but less in diameter than the conductor, so that as the angle

is made to increase in proportion to the weight on the cage, so will the

compression also increase on the conductors.
The compressors A are constructed with lever ends, and when the cage hangs

freely on the winding rope they are held away from the conductors by side

rods D, attached on each side of the cage, to main vertical and shouldered

rods E working through guide boxes F, in which are inserted spiral springs

(merely to give impetus to the compressors) bearing on the inside shoulders

of the main vertical rods E, which are connected on each side of the cage by

a cross bar G, working over the top or cover of the cage H, and attached to

the winding rope. To prevent the compressors A wrenching apart, they are

connected by a front tie-plate C. K represents ordinary cast-iron guide

boxes through which the conductors slide.
By the above description, and with reference to the working models Vol.

XVI.—1867.

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(see drawing- of model No. 2, Plate XXV.), it will be seen that when the

cage hang's freely on the rope the shoulders on the main vertical rods E are

brought up by means of the cross bar G to the undersides of the grade boxes

F, and the compressors, now being- held away from the conductors, are

allowed to pass freely between the forks of the catches, but immediately on

the rope becoming- disconnected from the cross bar G- the concealed spiral

spring-s, hitherto held in subjection, are released, give impetus to, and

assist in bringing the compressors A into instantaneous play, which, then

sliding into one another so close round, and compress the conductor into a

circular hole, less in diameter than the conductor itself, through which it

is impossible for it to pass, so that the cage is brought to an immediate

stand.
In the arrangements by which the compressors are connected to the winding

rope, it will be perceived that both sets must work simultaneously on the

guides, and are such as cannot be easily deranged.
I may add, in conclusion, that the apparatus and arrangements are in course

of being patented, provisional protection having been already allowed.
Plates XXV. to XXIX. illustrate Mr. Harper's paper " On Improved Safety-cage

Apparatus, etc."
ON
UNDERGROUND HAULAGE AT PELTON COLLIER!
By D. P. MORISON and JAMES NELSON.
The means of conveying coal underground being of such great importance to

the efficient working of collieries, as regards the speed and economy of

producing large quantities of coal, and there having already been some

papers read on the subject, and published in the Transactions of the North

of England Institute of Mining Engineers, it occurred tc the writers to lay

a summary of the results of some recent experiments, made by them, before

the members of the Institute.
These experiments were made, and this paper was compiled, before the writers

were aware that the investigations, now being carried on by the recently

appointed Tail-rope Committee, would bear upon the subjecl in a much more

detailed and interesting form. It will, however, not be out of place to set

before you the following data, as they may be of some use to the Committee

in elucidating the same subject, from, perhaps, a different point of view;

and, also, as they have a special bearing* on the papers read on previous

occasions by several members.
The experiments were made at Pelton Colliery, on two of the principal

branch-lines in the engine-plane of the Hutton-seam, termed respectively the

" South-Side-New- West Way" and the " Far-Off Way," the length of the former

being 2354 yards, and of the latter 2995 yards, both measurements being

taken from the drums of the engine to the return sheaves.
The way on these two branches is in remarkably good condition, a

considerable portion having been lately relaid with heavy-edge rails,

chaired and fished at the joints, and carefully cross-levelled and ballasted

over the whole length. The weights of these rails, with the numbers and

weights of sheaves, rollers, and drums, are given in Appendix No. III.
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The engines, of which a plan on a small scale is annexed, Plate XXX., are

two horizontal cylinders, twenty-four inches diameter, with three feet

stroke, geared two to three into two drums, five feet two inches diameter on

barrel. The main-rope is three inches in circumference, and the tail-rope

two-and-three-quarters inches, the weight of the Far-Off Way ropes being

five tons six cwts. and nine tons two cwts. respectively• and of the

New-West Way ropes three tons eighteen cwts., and seven tons two cwts. The

sheaves and rollers, for carrying the ropes, are set ten yards apart, of

good construction, and may he considered a fair sample of those generally in

use in this neighbourhood.
The engines were indicated with two of Richards's indicators, of the best

make, and the taps were placed on the ends of the cylinders (without the

intervention of any pipes, which are so liable to give erroneous results),

diagrams being taken from each end of the cylinder at the same stroke, the

revolutions of the engine and the pressure of steam in the receiver being at

the same time carefully noted. The motion was transferred to the indicators

from the cross-head by iron levers, very accurately adjusted over each

cylinder.
The first experiment was made on the engine running empty, and the indicated

effective horse-power was 18-362 (as per Appendices Nos. I. and II.). On the

ropes coupled in the Far-Off Way the indicated horse-power was 77*742• and

on the ropes coupled in the New-West Way 72-99. The Far-Off ropes were then

attached to a loaded set of ninety tubs, and in drawing these up an incline

of 1 in 74 (at the point marked A on plan and section, Plates XXXI. and

XXXIL), the indicated horse-power was 166-535, the diameter, including coils

of rope of the main drum, being at that point five-feet-six-and-a-half

inches• and the engine, therefore, making one revolution for 11-63 feet

travelled by the rope. On the same loaded set, when on the level (at the

point marked B on plan and sections), the diameter of the drum being then

six feet seven inches, and the feet travelled by the ropes for one

revolution being 13*78, the indicated horse-power was 134-982.
On a full set of eighty tubs (coming along the point marked G on plan and

section), from the New-West Way, the diameter being then five feet ten

inches, and the feet travelled 12-21, the indicated horsepower was 120-556.

On the same set, at the point B, the indicated horse-power wras 126-218, the

diameter of drum being six feet one-and-a-half inches, and feet travelled

12-82.
For the experiments on the empty sets, as well as the data upon which the

calculations are based, the writers would refer you to the
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tabulated statements (Appendices Nos. I. and II.) • and in order not to take

up time by going into them at present, they will merely lay before you the

following general deductions from the results of their experiments, which

appear to them to be supported by the data given.
First.—That in the New-West Way the power requisite to move the ropes, at

the rate of sixty-eight revolutions, or 883 feet per minute, is fifty-seven

per-cent. of the total power indicated on the engines when drawing along the

level a full set weighing about fifty-eight tons at the same number of

revolutions.
Second.—That in the Far-Off Way the power required to move the ropes, at the

above speed, was forty-seven per-cent. of the total power indicated when

drawing a set weighing sixty-five tons up a gradient of 1 in 74, and 57-6

per-cent. of that when drawing' the same set along the level, both at the

same speed of sixty-eight revolutions.
Third.—Inasmuch as the New-West Way ropes are only 6910 yards, and that the

Far-Off Way ropes are 8810 yards long, or, in other words, that one is to

the other as 1 is to 1*28* and, as the power requisite to work either is

nearly the same, it follows that a large per-centage of the power required

to move the shorter rope is absorbed by the greater number of sharp curves

in the shorter way, and by being bound round a sheave attached to the pumps

* and, hence, the tail-rope system, or the haulage of ropes of any

description, may be considered to work at a serious disadvantage, where

there are any sharp curves • and it is evident that before any fixed and

constant per-centage of power lost by ropes or tail-ropes can be laid down,

the friction at the curves must be arrived at.
Fourth.—The apparent anomaly of the great loss of power per-cent. in drawing

the ropes is explained by the following facts :—
1.—That the weight of the ropes is actually eighteen per-cent. of the total

weight to be moved in the Far-Off Way, and nineteen per-cent. of that in the

New-West Way.
2.—That a certain amount of friction must be applied to the tail-drum, to

prevent the tail-rope over-running or becoming slack.
3.—That the large amount of friction caused by the rigidity of the rope

passing round the return sheave, and over the drums and sheaves at all the

curves, must be taken into account.
4.—That in the transmission of the total effective power of the engine

through the spur-gearing to the drums, a loss takes place of at least five

per-cent., in addition to the power absorbed by the friction of the drums.
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The comparisons of the New-West Way and the Far-Off ropes, when hauling-,

were taken at the same point B; so that the results are in no degree

affected by the difference in the state of way—the rails or the gradients in

their respective branches.
It may, in conclusion, be remarked, that the writers have arranged a series

of experiments by which they hope to be enabled to lay before the Institute

an actual rule and formula for calculating the loss of power occasioned by

the passing of a rope in a state of tension over a return sheave, or a drum

at a curve of any given angle, there being at present no ascertained rules

for arriving at these conclusions, as the formula of General Morin for the

rigidity of ropes cannot well be applied in these instances.
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APPENDIX No. III.
DETAILS OP ENGINE, E NGIN E - PL ANE, Etc.
1.—Engine.
Diameter of cylinder ............... 24 inches.
Length of stroke.................. 3 feet.
Diameter of piston-rod, fore end ......... 3J inches.
Do. "Do. back end ......... 2f „
Area of steam-ports ............... 20 „
Do. exhaust-ports ............... 35 „
Length of main-pipe ... ............ 400 feet.
Do. exhaust-pipe............... 300 „
Diameter of main-pipe............... 8 inches.
Do. exhaust-pipe ... ... ... ...

9 „
Do. driving-pinion ............ 4 feet.
Do. spur-wheel............... 6 „
Do. fly-wheel ............... 10 „
Weight of fly-wheel ............... 5 tons.
Diameter of drums ............... 5 feet 2 inches.
Do. do. including Flanges ...... 8 feet 2

inches.
Width of Drums between Flanges ......... 3 feet.
Receiver, length 15 feet by 3 feet 6 inches diameter.
2.—Ropes.
Yards. Yards.
MAIN. TAIL.
Far Off ......... 2990 ......... 5820
New West Way ...... 2200 ......... 4710
Circumference......... 3 inches ......... 21 inches.
Weights—Far-Off ... 5 tons 6 cwts..........9 tons 2 cwts.
New-West Way 3 tons 18 cwts..........7 tons 2 cwts.
3.—Sheaves, per detailed statement.
Distance apart, 10 yards.
4.—Rails.
28 lbs. per yard and 24 lbs. per yard. Gauge of way, 22^ inches.
5.—Tubs.
Cwts. Qrs. Lbs.
Average weight empty............... 5 2 14
Coals ..................... 9 0 7
DETAILED STATEMENT OF ROLLERS AND SHEAVES, ENGINE-PLANE,
BZUTTON-SEAM. Engine to Far Off Station—
5 in. 8 in. 14 in. H by 10. 2 ft. 4 ft. 6 ft. 7

ft. Total.
Main-sheaves ...... 264 ...... 26 ............ 290
Tail do....... 9 170 110 ... 7 2 2

... 300
Total............ 273 170 110 26 7 2 2 ...

590
Engine to South Station—
Main-sheaves ...... 207 ...... 32 ............ 239
Tail do....... 33 71 112 ... 18 2

2 1 239
Total............ 240 71 112 32 18 2 2 1

478
Vol. XVI.—1867.

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APPENDIX No. IV.
Plates XXXIII. and XXXIV.
EESULTS OP EXPERIMENTS ON COMPARATIVE DIAGRAMS TAKEN FROM INDICATOR ON

CYLINDER AND IN PIPES.
As a statement affecting the accuracy of diagrams, when taken off indicators

connected with an engine cylinder by means of pipes, was made by one of the

writers at the last meeting of the Institute, he thought it might be

satisfactory to make direct experiments with the view of laying before the

Institute a proof of the great discrepancy which invariably arises from the

use of pipes when indicating engines.
¦ The experiments were made on the top side of the cylinder of the engine

driving the ventilating fan at Pelton Colliery. This cylinder is 23f inches

diameter, 23§ inches stroke, and works at a speed varying from 56 to 64

strokes per minute. The indications were made at the former speed, at nearly

the same stroke, and the results were :—
Effective Pressure of Back

Effective
Steam on Piston. Pressure.

Horse-Power.
Cylinder cover ... 19-886 ... 1-995

... 58-24
Pipes ...... 15-570 ... 4-73

... 45-6
The pipes were half an inch inside diameter, and the length, from cylinder

to indicator, was two feet ten and a-half inches, as shown on sketch

annexed.
Plates XXX. to XXXIV. illustrate Messrs. Morison and Nelson's paper on

Underground Haulage at Pelton Colliery.
APPENDIX N?4
Com p ara Li ve I) i adr anis Cylinder (tf Fan En^awfPeJtari (htfthy.
1 From/ Indicator otv i inch pipe -from fop of Cylinder
2 Ftxnn/ lrutieei/or on top of Cylinder
Scale/ 24nTbs.Co an JncTi Jtzcharcls' TiidictiJor
Strokes of Engine____5C
Steam; ire Boilers____32
NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEERS.
GENERAL MEETING, SATURDAY, JUNE 1, 1867, IN THE ROOMS
OF THE INSTITUTE, NEVILLE HALL, NEVILLE STREET,
NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
T. E. FORSTER, Esq., President of the Institute, in the Chaib.
The minutes of the Council were read, after which the following- new members

were elected:—Mr. Benjamin Huntsman, West Retford Hall, Retford; Mr. Edward

Greenway, Brierlj Hill; and Mr. Thomas Lloyd, Brierly Hill. Mr. Frederick

Siddon, of Wigan, was elected a graduate.
UNDERGROUND CONVEYANCE AND THE CLIP-PULLEY.
Mr. Cockburn said, since reading- his paper he had made a few experiments on

a double-acting pump. It was a nine-inch pump which he had now working at

Upleatham Mines. He found that taking the last nine months' working, it had

pumped on an average at the rate of 146 gallons per-minute on single-action,

and 293 gallons on double-action. Taking the two pumps together, he found

they had pumped 352,200 gallons in twenty hours. It was a two-feet stroke,

and it gave twenty strokes per-minute. The distance was 450 yards, and the

water was forced up an incline and raised vertically eighty-three feet. He

estimated the actual weight of water in eighty-three feet of nine-inch pipe

to be 6 tons 8 cwts. 2 qrs. 4 lbs. When he calculated the work of the ropes

which had been working for nine months, he found they had travelled during

that time 18,200 miles; the cost per-mile on the rope being T85d. He meant

this calculation to be taken in connection with Vol. XVI.—18G7.

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the pumping of the water. In working- out the data he found that the actual

cost for every thousand gallons of water on the sixteen-inch stroke was

l-19d.; and on the twenty-four-inch stroke the cost per thousand gallons was

*79d., or a little over three-farthings for a thousand
gallons.
The eight-feet pulley to which he had referred in his paper, he found

working from two to three thousand tons per day. The gradient was one in

eleven, and the "brake held considerably. He also found that the brake had

not sufficient power in running from the wheel, as it was technically

termed. There was another difficulty; the brakesman sometimes laid his lever

too strongly on the wheel, and he once broke the rope. He held one side on

the incline, and the other went amain. To obviate this he put two screw

brakes on the wheel, so that every time the wheel was running into the

brake. He found it working in every respect in as satisfactory a manner as

he could wish.
Mr. Boyd called Mr. Cockburn's attention to a remark made by Mr. Lindsay

Wood at the last meeting, namely, that he had found the wear and tear of

ropes heavier on the clip-pulley than it was on the
ordinary system.
Mr. Cockburn said, he could not speak as to a comparison between the

plain-pulley and the clip-pulley, as he had not the plain-pulley working at

the present time. At the Loftus Mines the cost had been *22d. per-ton for

the last four months. It was an inclined-plane of one in fourteen, and it

was 3G0 yards long. This estimate of cost included everything except the

capital sunk.
Mr. Boyd—You estimate the entire cost including wear and tear, and still it

does not amount to more than that 1
Mr. Cockburn said, his experience was that the wear and tear was not so much

as that. He had it running round three curves, almost at right angles to

each other. He might just state for the information of the meeting*, that

last Thursday morning on his eight-feet pulley on the incline, the socket

caught the point-end and held it there till the rope broke. There were three

trucks weighing- ten tons each, and they were kept quite still by the man

holding the brake.
Mr. Steavenson suggested that there ought to be a standard of comparison for

experiments agreed upon. Some of the members who read papers gave the cost

per-ton, and others gave the cpiantity of water raised. Mr. Cockburn, in his

paper, gave a certain cost per-ton, but he had not given the cost' per-ton

per-mile. It would be well to give the cost per-mile also. There* was a

want of uniformity, and it would be
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well if the Council or the Members generally could agree on some uniform

standard.
The President said, the Tail-rope Committee were drawing up their paper so

as to show the cost per-ton per-mile.
Mr. Steavenson said, the gradients must also be taken into account.
The President—Certainly.
Mr. Morison said, in connection with his and Mr. Nelson's paper, the cost

had been gone roughly into as well as they could, the ropes doing both the

pumping and hauling. After allowing for the pumping, they estimated the cost

at l'7d. per-ton per-mile.
The President—That is very moderate. I should think that would be the

cheapest. You do not take interest of capital 1
Mr. Morison—No.
Mr. Douglas—How do you estimate the wear and tear ?
Mr. Morison—We can only take the number of miles travelled by the rope.
Mr. Southern—Do you take the entire working cost ?
Mr. Morison—Yes- tubs, ropes, upholding of the way, and repairs to engine,

rollers, etc.; everything but interest of capital.
UNDERGROUND HAULAGE AT PELTON COLLIERY.
Mr. Morison said, they had been waiting-, before making any further

experiments, to see the report of the Tail-rope Committee. It might give

them some help and save them a great deal of labour.
The President said, the Tail-rope Committee were very much engaged. They

were progressing; but he feared their report would not be ready before the

annual meeting.
Mr. Daglish said, the more their labours continued the more they saw they

had to do.
NOTICE OP MOTION.
Mr. Douglas gave notice of motion for the annual meeting, that in in future

the general meetings should be held, not alternately on Thursday and

Saturday, but always on a Saturday.
SAFETY-CAGES.
Mr. Harper's paper u On Harper's Improved Safety-Cage Apparatus, for

ordinary Wire-Rope Conductors," was set down for discussion. The President

read a letter from Mr. Harper apologizing for his absence.
Mr. Southern said, in reference to the accident which had occurred yesterday

at Washington, that it would be a useful thing to have a com-
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mittee on safecy-cages, and have the question thoroughly gone into, with a

view to prevent such accidents as far as possible.
The President approved of the suggestion, and the following* gentlemen were

appointed a committee :—Messrs. E. F. Boyd, C.Berkley, S. Crone, T. Douglas,

A. L. Steavenson, J. F. Spencer, and Jas. Nelson.
Mr. Daglish said, Mr. Broadbent's agent was present, but he suggested that

the discussion should be taken at the next meeting*. A model was on the

table, and the apparatus itself was at work in one of the West-Rainton Pits.

He would be glad to show it to any gentleman who might visit the Alexandra

Pit where it was working.
The President—Do you use round ropes or flat 1
Mr. Daglish—We use round ropes.
The discussion was then postponed.
The President announced that Mr. G. B. Forster had presented to the

Institute a model, which was then on the table, of a malleable iron-beam,

which had been put up at Cambois Colliery.
Mr. S. Crone moved a vote of thanks to Mr. G. B. Porster, and said that it

was a good beginning to their collection of models, and he hoped other

gentlemen would follow the example.
Mr. Cockburn seconded the motion, which was carried by acclamation.
After some remarks had been made with respect to an intended visit to Eyhope

Colliery,
The President submitted a resolution which had been already agreed to by the

Coal-Trade, namely, that Mr. T. W. Bunning be appointed Secretary to the two

Societies.
The motion was carried unanimously, and the meeting shortly after broke up.
NORTH OF ENGLAND INSTITUTE
OF
MINING ENGINEEES.
ANNUAL MEETING, THURSDAY, AUGUST 1, 1867, IN THE EOOMS OF THE INSTITUTE,

NEVILLE STEEET, NEWCASTLE-UPON-TYNE.
JOHN MARLEY, Esq., in the Chair,
Mr. Bunning, the newly-appointecl Secretary, read the proceedings of the

Council, and last general meeting.
The voting papers for the election of the officers for the ensuing* year

were, by the direction of the Chairman, placed in the hands of the

scrutineers, Mr. C. Berkley and Mr. G. B. Forster.
The Chairman said, that some little mistake had arisen relative to the

election of President. Most of them were aware, that prior to the election

of Mr. T. E. Forster, the rule was altered as to fixing the term of

office—that it should be vacated in the same way as that of Vice-president,

after a period of so many years. Mr. I. L. Bell, in January, 1866, proposed

that the term of office should be for three years. The question was not

settled till the month of March, 1866. Some members were for two years and

others for three years. About twelve months ago it was discovered that the

late Secretary had omitted to make any minute as to what rule was arrived

at. Then, in consequence of that discovery being made, he had entered in the

book that it was not more than two years. Supposing this entry to have been

correct, Mr. T. E. Forster ought to have been starred as ineligible in the

voting papers just issued. The Council after weighing the matter over, had

come to a resolution this morning, which they submitted to the meeting to

get out of this difficulty. To decide that two years was what was agreed
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upon, would be to cancel all the votes which had been given by all the

absent members, and to decide that three years was so, would leave the

matter in such a way that Mr. T. E. Forster would be eligible. The

recommendation of the Council was that three years should be declared to be

the term, so as to be consonant with the rule as to Vice-presidents.
The resolution on being submitted was carried unanimously.
A resolution requesting the Building Committee to continue their

negotiations was also adopted.
Mr. G. T. Manners, of Birtley Iron Works, was elected a member, and Mr.

Griffith, of Cowpen Colliery, Blyth, a graduate.
The Secretary read a recommendation of the Council to the effect that,

inasmuch as they had appointed a Safety-cage Committee, it would be

advisable that the discussion on Mr. Daglish's paper and Mr. Harper's paper,

on the subject of Safety-cages, should be postponed until after the

Committee had made their report, which was agreed to.
The next subject was a resolution submitted by the Council, viz.:— That the

next monthly meeting be considered special to consider Rule 5, in order that

the words " Mining Inspectors during* the term of their office, and " be

inserted after the words " Honorary Members shall be."
On the motion of Mr. Cochrane, permission was given to Mr. Greener, to

translate his paper on " Bastier's Chain Pump " into French.
Mr. Cochrane having- raised a question as to the position of Mr. Howse, it

was resolved, on the suggestion of the Chairman, that the subject be left to

the Council.
The Secretary then read the Annual Eeport of the Council.
Mr. L. Wood read the Report of the Finance Committee, and presented the

Treasurer's Statement.
The Chairman, in adverting to the Report, said, however highly it spoke of

the late Mr. Jeffcock, it was not more than he deserved. As an individual

member of the Institute he would add one remark, namely, that the Accidental

Insurance Company, in the most unhandsome and unwise manner, had repudiated

the payment of the insurance on the life of Mr. Jeffcock. The Council had

made no comment upon this, but it had been well discussed in the public

prints. He (the Chairman) happened to be the holder of a policy in that

Company; when it expired, which it would do in November, he should not renew

it, and he had told them the reason why. Not only that, but he should

recommend every mining engineer and other gentlemen to do the same, and he

should be quite willing at any time to contribute his mite towards

compelling the Company to pay, which he believed they could
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be made to do. With regard to the papers read at the meetings, he hoped the

young members would not wait till the whole of their experiments were

completed before they gave the Institute the benefit of their experience.

The Royal Commission had been alluded to. A difference of opinion had been

expressed as to the advantage of that Commission. He hoped the result of

their inquiries, when it came before the public, would inform them, not only

what coal they had left, but also that some ideas would be brought out, and

facts brought together, such as would assist the mining engineers of the

district to find out whether coal exists where it had not been considered to

exist hitherto, otherwise the Commission would fall short of its object.

They would all join in the eulogium pronounced on their treasurer, Mr. Boyd;

but for his services they would not have been in such a good financial

position.
The confirmation of the Reports, etc., was carried by show of hands.
Mr. Waller, in the absence of Mr. J. F. Spencei-, moved,—"That all papers

proposed to be read at the meetings of the Institute, shall be printed

before they are read, and that copies shall be given to the members present

at such meeting, absent members being supplied as usual." He (Mr. Waller)

thought the members would be better able to follow the paper as read, if

they had it before them.
Mr. Newall seconded the motion.
Mr. L. Wood said, if the copies were only given to the members at the

meeting very little good would arise, as they would have very little time to

read the paper after they came to the meeting-. It would be better if the

copies were posted to members two or three days before the meeting, that

they might have time fully to understand the paper.
Mr. Cochrane said, it would throw the entire responsibility upon the Council

to decide on what papers should be printed. He thought it better to read all

papers to the general meeting; the Council having-as usual approved of them

generally, and that the sense of the meeting should be taken as to their

worth. He was decidedly of opinion that it would be better to continue as

they were. He should vote against the alteration.
The Chairman begged to call attention to Rule 17, which was " That the

Council shall have power to decide on the propriety of communicating to the

Institute any papers which may be received, and they shall be at liberty,

when they think it desirable, to direct that any paper read before the

Institute shall be printed and transmitted to the members."
Mr. Newall said, probably the resolution would be taken with a
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little amendment. The time was too short if merely delivered at the

meeting-. If it were decided that the papers were to be printed before

being- read, thej had better be sent to the members a few days beforehand,

so as to enable them to discuss the subject fully.
Mr. Cochrane said, it was a pity Mr. Spencer was not here himself; he

understood that such an amendment was quite contrary to Mr. Spencer's

wishes. That g-entleman did not wish to send the papers to members

beforehand, because then the subject would have lost its novelty, and

members would not care to attend the meeting'. It was a pity Mr. Spencer was

not here to state on what grounds he proposed this motion.
The Chairman said, the Council was expected, according- to Rule 17, to have

read and considered every paper that came before it before it was read to

the meeting-. Perhaps it was only proper to confess that the Council had not

always done that duty. It had relied on the standing- of the writers as

showing- prima facie that it was a proper paper to be read; and they also

had relied, on the other hand, that the paper as actually read would be

eliminated and considerably improved before it g-ot into the printer's

hands, partly by the remarks at the meeting-, and partly by themselves. It

was too great a responsibility to place on the Council that they should have

to decide whether a paper should be printed or not. There had been instances

where a g-eneral meeting- had given instructions to the Council that a paper

had better not be printed. Althoug-h the object which Mr. Spencer had in

view was g*ood, his own view was that they should hesitate in adopting- this

motion, and see if the Council could contrive something' to meet the

difficulty.
Mr. Lishman moved as an amendment that the Rule remain as it is, which

being- seconded by Mr. Greener, was carried by a larg-e majority.
Mr. Dougias's motion " That Rule 13 be altered, and the General Meeting's be

held on the Saturdays instead of as at present," was proposed by Mr.

Cochrane, seconded by Mr. W. Lishman, of Bunker Hill, and carried by a

larg*e majority.
Mr. A. L. Steavenson's paper "On Experiments with Bastier's Patent

Chain-Pump" stood for discussion. That g-entleman was not present, but a

letter from him was read, in which he sug-g-ested that further experiments

were desirable.
The Chairman said, that he had sug-g-ested to Mr. A. L. Steavenson that,

inasmuch as the experiments at St. Helen's Auckland had been
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made on a pump driven with a second motion, lifting* the water after it had

been g-ot to the surface higiier so that it migiit be applied to coke oven

purposes, there might be considerable difference if those experiments were

made with the same pump and engines with the delivery immediately when it

arrived at the surface. He would sug'g-est to Mr. Greener, who represented

Bastier's pump in this district, that he should forthwith make a delivery

pipe at the surface and provide the necessary means at St. Helen's Auckland

for working- the pump by direct-action, instead of by a second motion.
Mr. Greener said, that in a month's time they would be in a better position

at St. Helen's Auckland pump. They had g-ot some crooked pipes there from

the parties that enamelled them.
The Chairman pointed to a model showing- the working- of the clip-pulley,

which had been presented to the Institute by the President.
On the motion of Mr. Willis, seconded by Mr. Bailes, the thanks of the

meeting- were voted to Mr. T. E. Forster for his present.
Mr. Waller then read a paper on Pumping- Water, which was illustrated by

diagrams.
Mr. Cochrane inquired whether any of the pumps of which examples had been

given, were worked at both ends of the beam ?
Mr. Waller said, in one of the examples, Windsor, there was a balance-beam

below the surface, but in no case were they worked at both ends.
Mr. Smith's paper " On Fasteners for Safety-Lamps," was withdrawn; and after

a vote of thanks to the Chairman the meeting* separated.
ON PUMPING WAT BE.
By WILLIAM WALLER.
What should be the cost of raising 1,000 gallons of water 100 feet is a

question of vital importance to all parties interested in raising1 coal. My

experience is offered, with the following- observations, to supply some

answer to this question.
It was stated at the Birmingham Meeting of the British Association that the

quantity of water raised over the 125 square miles constituting the South

Staffordshire Coal-field, was 50,000,000 gallons per 24 hours (representing

ten times the weight of coal raised), at a yearly cost of £125,000, or,

deducting five per cent, on the stated capital employed, £500,000, at a cost

of £100,000. In endeavouring to ascertain the depth this quantity was

lifted, I have been informed that 128 yards or 381 feet may be taken as the

average depth of the pits of the whole field. Assuming this depth to be the

average of the lifts, and the quantities raised by each to be equal, pumping

on the South Staffordshire Coal-field costs "343 pence per 1,000 gallons

raised 100 feet, or, in other words, per million foot pounds. In

endeavouring to establish a comparison between this and the Northumberland

and Durham District, I have not at command the same details to guide me that

I have quoted for South Staffordshire, and, therefore, cannot come to any

conclusion on the matter, except, that from observation I should think it

would not be below the *343 pence per million foot pounds above given. But

as it was stated, at the aforesaid Birmingham Meeting, that fifteen times

more water was lifted than coal in this district, and as the coal lifted in

1865 was 25,000,000 tons, there are something like 84,000,000,000 gallons to

raise, say the same height, viz., 384 feet, which, at the same rate, would

cost £459,200. This sufficiently shows the importance of the matter.
I propose to place beside these data the results obtained under my own

observation in waterworks for the supply of towns, where generally the
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work is more economically executed. Should any object that these are not

parallel cases, I submit that the mining- engine, works under more

advantageous circumstances, for this reason, that, being- necessarily in the

first instance sufficient to reduce the water, in keeping- it at the reduced

level it is working well within its power, and under very economical

conditions; whereas, the waterworks engine having to contend with ever

varying- demands, with extra and intermittent exertion, with increased

friction and resistance in restricted pipe area, is under every

disadvantage. For the purposes of comparison, however, they may be

considered as working* under similar circumstances.
The Wolverhampton Waterworks raise water from two wells, and the work done

in 1849 was equal to raising 420,000,000 gallons 100 feet hig-h, and the

cost (coal 7s. 6d. per ton) £750 per annum, being about •422 pence per

million foot pounds.
There are two pumping- stations, one at Tettenhall, and one at Gold-thorn,

the former 140 feet deep, the latter 300 feet deep. The stand-pipe of the

Tettenhall engine is 180 feet high, making- a lift of 320 feet. The pumps

have plung-ers 13 inches diameter and 10 feet stroke.
The South Staffordshire Water works, in 1859, raised 1,250,000 g-allons 450

feet high, at a cost of "22 pence per million foot pounds.
The East London Waterworks Company, in 1849, with 2121 \ tons of coal, at

10s. Gd. per ton, raised 2,889,000,000 gallons 100 feet high ; and Mr.

Wickstead states the total cost of lifting a million foot pounds, taken on

the average of several years, with the different engines, to be asunder:—
Single-acting Engine, Bolton and Watt......... -543 pence.
Two do. do. .........

-358 „
Two do. do. .........

-333 „
Single-acting Cornish Engine, Harvey & Co....... -150 „
We see here, from high authority, what a very important difference there is

in the duty of the several engines in the same undertaking-.
The Southwark and Vauxhall Company, in 1849, with 2920 tons of coal, at 10s.

per ton, raised 4,061,000,000 gallons 100 feet high, or -084 pence for coal

for lifting a million foot pounds, making- the very liberal addition of

five-sevenths for labour, repairs, wear and tear, etc. This gives -144 pence

per million foot pounds.
The Grand Junction Company, in 1849, with 3170 tons of coal, at 14s. Od. per

ton, raised 2,810,000,000 gallons 100 feet high, or -192 pence for coal

alone, for lifting a million foot pounds- adding labour, etc., as before,

this gives -276 pence per million foot pounds.
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The Liverpool Corporation Waterworks present a comparison more nearly

approaching- the general pumping- arrangements of a colliery; engines both

of the ordinary crank-engine and Cornish type are used, and the cost of

pumping- is given with g*reat detail and accuracy.
I now proceed to describe these Engines separately, with such remarks as may

appear necessary to explain discrepancies, which might otherwise be taken

for errors.
At the Bootle Station there were three engines each with beam and crank, and

with a sing-le-acting- bucket-pump (see Plate No. XXXV.), and worked direct

from the beam of each engine. Only two of these engines were worked

together, and they delivered through an air-vessel. In 1849, with 1809 tons

of coal, at 7s. 3d. per ton, 329,486,250 gallons were raised 170 feet high,

or 561,000,000 gallons 100 feet high, giving •281 pence for coal alone per

million foot pounds, or, including all expenses, taken from the actual

returns, *619 pence per million foot pounds.
At the Bevington Bush Station there was only one engine working a

bucket-lift at the outer end of the beam, the cylinder was thirty-eight

inches, with a stroke of five-and-a-half to six-and-a-half feet. During one

quarter of this year very little work was done, and the expense thereby very

much increased. The engine was altered from a bucket-lift to a plunger (see

Plate No. I.), and considerable repairs effected. The depth of the well is

150 feet, the total lift being 228 feet. In 1849, with 575 tons of coal, at

8s. 3d. per ton, 95,433,850 gallons were raised 228 feet high, or

217,000,000 gallons 100 feet high, giving -263 pence for coal alone, per

million foot pounds, or, including all expenses taken from the actual

returns, "789 pence per million foot pounds. Whilst alluding to this engine,

I may add that the saving effected by the alteration was, in after years,

found, to be -201 pence per million foot pounds.
The Soho Station had one beam and crank engine with two pumps, the main pump

being- a bucket-lift delivering 19T6 gallons, the outer a plunger throwing

15 gallons per stroke with a lift of 247 feet, the well being 140 feet deep.

In 1849, with 983 tons of coal, at 8s. 4d. per ton, 168,812,589 gallons were

raised 247 feet high, or 417,000,000 gallons 100 feet high, giving -236

pence for coal alone per million foot pounds, or, including all expenses,

taken from the actual returns, -480 pence per million foot pounds.
The Water Street or Park Engine was like that at #ie Soho Station, but both

pumps were bucket-lifts like the main pump, delivering about 197 gallons,

and the outer 1737 gallons per stroke. The lift was
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257 feet, the well being 157 feet deep. In 1849, with 1225 tons of coal at

8s. 6d. per ton, 150,038,675 gallons were raised 257 feet high, or

385,000,000 gallons 100 feet high, giving -309 pence for coal alone per

million foot pounds, or, including all expenses, taken from the actual

returns, -544 pence per million foot pounds.
The Hotham Street Station had an old engine of the beam and crank class,

with a double-acting piston pump (see Plate No. XXXV.), delivering about 14|

gallons per stroke, under a load of 205 feet, the depth of well being 110

feet. In 1849, with 682 tons of coal, at 8s. 6d. per ton, 80,783,430 gallons

were raised 205 feet high, or 106,000,000 gallons 100 feet high, giving -419

pence for coal alone per million foot pounds, or, including all expenses,

taken from the actual returns, '874 pence per million foot pounds.
The Windsor Station had one engine with about 50-inch cylinder, on the

Cornish principle, making about 8| feet stroke, and throwing about 77

gallons per stroke 287 feet, the well being 212 feet deep (see Plate No.

XXXVI.). In 1849, with 1090 tons of coal, at 7s. 7d. per ton, 252,922,050

gallons were raised 287 feet high, or 726,000,000 gallons 100 feet high,

giving -135 pence for coal alone per million foot pounds, or, including all

expenses, -341 pence per million foot pounds.
The Green Lane engine is of a similar class to that referred to by Mr.

Wickstead, and made by Harvey and Company, being a Cornish engine with

50-inch cylinder and 9 feet stroke (See Plate XXXVI.). There were two

plunger lifts of 18-inch diameter, delivering 834 gallons per stroke 270

feet high, the well being 196 feet below the engine-house floor. In 1849,

with 916 tons of coal, at 6s. lOd. per ton, 307,378,629 gallons were raised

270 feet high, or 992,000,000 gallons 100 feet high, giving •075 pence for

coal alone per million foot pounds, or, including all expenses, taken from

the actual returns,-222 pence per million foot pounds. Recapitulating the

above results, we get the whole comparative cost at a glance.
We may fairly conclude that the cost of coal for lifting 1000 gallons 100

feet high, or a million foot pounds, need never exceed one-eighth of a penny

where Cornish engines of the best make are employed ; and that the total

expense, exclusive of interest of capital, for doing this amount of work,

might be within one farthing instead of the halfpenny and three farthings we

very often find it.
It will be also seen that the larger the amount of duty performed the less

cost there is in doing that duty, which clearly shows that Associations

formed for draining large districts should, on this account alone, be able

to work more economically than the smaller efforts of each colliery

proprietary.
Again, when the Bevington engine was altered from a lift to a plunger-pump

(see Plate XXXV.), the cost fell from "789 pence to -588 pence; the

difference may be explained by the fact that with the bucket-pump the whole

weight of the rods had to be lifted with the water, while after the

alteration the water was lifted by the weight of the rods, no steam being

used except to lift the rods and the small column of water that was below

the clack.
The reduction in cost at some of the stations of the Liverpool Waterworks

may be attributed, some to improved machinery, and at others to the

increased quantities of water lifted; and I would conclude by
* The Liverpool engines, during 1849, were burning two kinds of coal; the

price given is the average price of the mixture.
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observing- that the best system of raising- water seems to be a

high-pressure condensing- engine of larg-e power, working- at variable

speeds by cataract or other known appliance, and that as a rule the

plung-er-pump gives the most certain results.
The writer has to acknowledge the assistance and information given by Thomas

Duncan, Esq., C.E., of the Liverpool Corporation Waterworks, and Edward B.

Marten, Esq., of the Stourbridge Waterworks, formerly of the South

Staffordshire Waterworks.
It is not wished to raise an invidious comparison between different modes of

raising water, but to give the practical result of pumping; and the writer

would wish to disclaim any opposition to plans that have been previously

brought before this Association, and to explain, that with a desire to

assist in the economical drainage of the district he has responded to the

invitation of some of the members, and given in this paper the result of his

own experience, confirmed, as it seems to him to be, by the reports of

others engaged in a similar enquiry, and though the dates may be different

the results seem to bear out the conclusions arrived at.
INDEX TO VOL. XVI.
Ansell's, Q-. F., New Method of Indicating the Presence of Fire- and

Choke-damp in Mines, Discussion on, 2.
Bastier'S Patent Chain-pump, reference to, 113.
Broadbent's Patent Safety-cage, Mr. J. Daglish on, 33; Discussion on, 31,

87.
Bunning, Mr. Theo. W., appointed Secretary to Institute, 128.
Calow's Safety-cage, Discussion on 23.
Chain Pump, Bastier's, 112.
Chronicles of Coal-Trade, Discussion on, 5.
Clip-pulley, Description of, 97.
Coal, On Working by Long-wall, etc., by W. Lishman, 42, 45; Discussion on,

107.
Coal, Conveyance of, Underground, by J. Daglish, 53 ; Discussion on, 88.
Coal-cutting Committee, Grant to, 1.
Coal, Specimens of, from Nova Scotia, etc., presented by Mr. W. Green, 3.
Cochrane, Mr. W., On Harrison's Cast-iron Boiler, 30-35 ; a Comparison of

the Guibal and Lemielle Systems of Mechanical Ventilation, 57-85 ; First

Keport of Tail-Bope Committee read, 104.
Cockburn, W., On Underground Conveyance in the Cleveland District, and the

Clip-Pulley, 92, 95-180.
Daglish, J., On Broadbent's Safety-cage,
31,33,87; On Conveyanceof Coal Underground, 51, 53-56; Discussion on, 87.
Discussions : On Mr. Ansell's New Method of Indicating the Presence of Fire

and Choke-damp, 2; On Chronicles of Coal-Trade, 5; On Mr. Steavenson's

Paper, Experiments with Guibal's Ventilator, 6, 42 ; On Calow's Safety-cage,

23; On Lemielle Ventilator, 30, 50; On Harrison's Cast-iron Boilers, 30, 43;

On Broadbent's Patent Safety-cage, 31, 87; On Conveyance of Coal

Underground, 88 ; On System of Working Coals by Long-wall Plan, 107; On Mr.

Cockburn's Paper on Underground Conveyance in Cleveland, 92, 125; On

Underground Haulage at Pelton, 127 ; On Safety-cages, 127.
Douglas, T., Motion to alter Rule XIIL, 132.
Errata, xxviii.
Fan Ventilator: On some Experiments with M. Guibal's Ventilator, translated

by A. L. Steavenson, 6; Experiments on, at Pelton, 9; Discussions on, at,

6-10, 42; Lemielle Ventilator Exhibited, 30; A Comparison of the Guibal and

Lemielle Systems of Mechanical Ventilation, by W. Cochrane, 50, 57-85.
Forster, G. B., Presentation of Model of Malleable-iron Beam, 128 ; and of a

Model to show Working of Clip-pulley, 133.
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142
General Meetings, 1866 : September, 1 ; October, 5 ; November, 23 ;

December, 41 ;—1867 : February, 49 ; March, 87 ; April, 101 ; May, 107 ;

June, 125 ; August, 129.
Grants to Tail-rope Committee, 1, 101 ; Endless-chain Do., 1 ; Coal-cutting

Do., 1.
Green, W., Chronicles of Coal-trade, Discussion on, 5 ; Presentation of

Coal, etc., 3.
Guibal, M., Ventilator ; on some Experiments with, translated by A. L.

Stea-venson, 6, 11-21; Experiments on, at Pelton Colliery, 9; Discussions

on, 6-10, 42.
Harrison's Cast-iron Boiler, W. Cochrane on, 30, 35 ; Discussion on, 43.
Harper, J. P., On Harper's Improved Safety-cage Apparatus, 106, 113-116 ;

Discussion on, 127.
Honorary Members, List of, xiv.
Lemielle's Ventilator ; Model of, exhibited, 30; Comparison of, with

Guibal's, 57, 85 ; Discussions on, 30, 50.
Lishman, W., On System of Working Coal on the Long-wall Plan, 45 ;

Discussion on, 107.
Long-wall System of Working Coal, on, 45 ; Discussion on, 107.
Maeley, J., Paper on Calow's Safety-cage, Discassion on, 23.
Model of a Malleable Iron-beam put up at Camboise, presented by Mr. G. B.

Forster, 128.
Model to show Working of Clip-pulley,
presented by G. B. Forster, 133. ' Members and Graduates, List of, xvi.
Members, Honorary, xiv.
Members, New, Elected, September 1, 1; October 4, 5 ; November 3, 23 ;

December 6, 41; February 2, 49 ; March 7,87;
April 6, 101 ; May 2, 107 ; June 1, 125; August 1, 129. Morison, D. P., and

Jas. Nelson, On Underground Conveyance at Pelton Colliery, 117-124 ;

Discussion on, 127.
NELSON, JAS., and D. P. Morison, On Underground Conveyance at Pelton

Colliery, 117-124 ; Discussion on, 127.
New Method of Indicating Presence of Fire- and Choke-damp in Mines,

Discussion on, 2.
Officers, 1867-8, xv.
Patrons, xiii.
Pumping Water, Mr. Waller on, 135.
Report op Council, v.
Beport of Finance Committee, ix.
Report of Safety-Lamp Committee read,
91. Report of Tail-rope Committee read,
April 6, 1867, 104. Report of Memorial-Hall Committee read,
May 2, 1867, 107. Rule XIII., Alteration of, 132.
Safety-cage Committee Appointed, 127.
Safety-cage, Calow's, Discussion on, 23; Broadbent's Paper on, 33 ;

Discussion on, 31, 127 ; Harper's Improved Safety-cage Apparatus, 113.
Safety-lamp, New Form of, shown by J. Daglish, 5; Safety-lamp Committee's

Report read, 91.
Secretary, Mr. Theo. W. Bunning, appointed, 128.
Specimens of Coal and Bituminous Shale presented by W. Green, 3.
Spencer, J. F., Motion to Alter the Mode of Issuing Transactions, 112, 131.
Steam-Indicator and Dynamometer purchased for Institute, 5.
143
Steavenson, A. L., Translation of some Experiments with the Covered

Ventilator of M. Guibal, 11—21.
Subscribing Collieries, xviii.
Tail-rope Committee, Grants to, 1,101. Tail-rope Committee, First Report

read, April 6th, 1867, 104.
Underground Conveyance in the Clc land District, 95-100; at Pelton C liery,

101, 117-124.
Waller, Mr. On Pumping Water, 135 Water, On Pumping, 135.
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